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11-09-2019, 06:08 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by Taco280AI
Him asking if they ran the QRH is just insulting. Does he really think that little of regional pilots now that he's at Delta? Stay off the radio.
11-09-2019, 06:18 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by LoitaHills
The EET Training comment is factual. Every 121 carrier has been mandated to start doing the training by March of this year. A claim? Here ya go...I can assure you—and any Republic pilot reading this post who has gone through CQ this year can attest to this, Republic’s EET SIM Training module is far from “extremely basic.”
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In the AC it states: Air carriers should develop training curriculums that provide
pilots with the knowledge and skills to prevent, recognize, and recover from unexpected
flightpath divergences and upset events. These training curriculums should contain the elements
and events described in Appendix 1.
Maybe Republic's approach to satisfying this requirement of the AC resulted in a training event that is "Far from 'extremely basic.'" I wouldn't know. I'm not a Republic pilot. But having participated in my airlines EET Training Event to satisfy this AC, the training was pretty damn basic, almost insulting. "You may have an ATP and thousands of hours, but here is how you recognize an approach to stall and how to recover from a stall." But, I took it for what it was, did the maneuvers and checked the box. Next!
And just because Republic's EET Training is "Far from extremely basic" it's not a judgement of your ability to fly an airplane if the safety department does an analysis of the event for internal release. Putting out a narrative of the facts of the event to the pilot group so everyone can vicariously experience the upset and learn from it, that's not a slap in the face, it's an opportunity to learn and always strive to be better tomorrow than you are today.
All in the name of safety, man.
11-09-2019, 06:41 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by Sperrysan
...If you are insulted by something like that you should take a look at yourself and make sure this job is right for you.
11-09-2019, 07:28 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by Rasta Banks
He'll probably get a pat on the back.
I found the cirrus intercept video. Maybe they are the same person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...v=Q8FniOFsn7U&
I found the cirrus intercept video. Maybe they are the same person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...v=Q8FniOFsn7U&
You got to be kidding me. I would have never believed this without the video.
To the Cirrus guy
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11-09-2019, 07:32 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by Sperrysan
Insulting is a bit of a stretch. It was a high stress situation for the crew and a guy familiar with the aircraft offered help. He asked that to see where they were in the situation, not because he thought they forgot to run the qrh. If you are insulted by something like that you should take a look at yourself and make sure this job is right for you.
Too many cooks in the kitchen is dangerous
11-09-2019, 08:11 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by Sperrysan
Insulting is a bit of a stretch. It was a high stress situation for the crew and a guy familiar with the aircraft offered help. He asked that to see where they were in the situation, not because he thought they forgot to run the qrh. If you are insulted by something like that you should take a look at yourself and make sure this job is right for you.
11-09-2019, 08:34 AM
#48
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I'm going to clear this up for everyone.
This is how you appropriately assist another aircraft in distress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2n1bovTaek
This is how you appropriately assist another aircraft in distress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2n1bovTaek
11-09-2019, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
The advisory circular which initiated the EET Training can be read here: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...-111_CHG_1.pdf
In the AC it states: Air carriers should develop training curriculums that provide
pilots with the knowledge and skills to prevent, recognize, and recover from unexpected
flightpath divergences and upset events. These training curriculums should contain the elements
and events described in Appendix 1.
Maybe Republic's approach to satisfying this requirement of the AC resulted in a training event that is "Far from 'extremely basic.'" I wouldn't know. I'm not a Republic pilot. But having participated in my airlines EET Training Event to satisfy this AC, the training was pretty damn basic, almost insulting. "You may have an ATP and thousands of hours, but here is how you recognize an approach to stall and how to recover from a stall." But, I took it for what it was, did the maneuvers and checked the box. Next!
And just because Republic's EET Training is "Far from extremely basic" it's not a judgement of your ability to fly an airplane if the safety department does an analysis of the event for internal release. Putting out a narrative of the facts of the event to the pilot group so everyone can vicariously experience the upset and learn from it, that's not a slap in the face, it's an opportunity to learn and always strive to be better tomorrow than you are today.
All in the name of safety, man.
In the AC it states: Air carriers should develop training curriculums that provide
pilots with the knowledge and skills to prevent, recognize, and recover from unexpected
flightpath divergences and upset events. These training curriculums should contain the elements
and events described in Appendix 1.
Maybe Republic's approach to satisfying this requirement of the AC resulted in a training event that is "Far from 'extremely basic.'" I wouldn't know. I'm not a Republic pilot. But having participated in my airlines EET Training Event to satisfy this AC, the training was pretty damn basic, almost insulting. "You may have an ATP and thousands of hours, but here is how you recognize an approach to stall and how to recover from a stall." But, I took it for what it was, did the maneuvers and checked the box. Next!
And just because Republic's EET Training is "Far from extremely basic" it's not a judgement of your ability to fly an airplane if the safety department does an analysis of the event for internal release. Putting out a narrative of the facts of the event to the pilot group so everyone can vicariously experience the upset and learn from it, that's not a slap in the face, it's an opportunity to learn and always strive to be better tomorrow than you are today.
All in the name of safety, man.
I agree we should have internal memos and analysis of this event.
I assure you that no one at Republic was insulted by the EET
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