Med Jet Lear 35A down @ El Cajon/Gillespie
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Dan Gryder has another video out on this accident. He syncs doorbell video with the jet's ATC transmissions:
https://youtu.be/hX8V0WCWllM
The younger pilot was the PIC, the Lear was his only type rating.
https://youtu.be/hX8V0WCWllM
The younger pilot was the PIC, the Lear was his only type rating.
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Dan Gryder has another video out on this accident. He syncs doorbell video with the jet's ATC transmissions:
https://youtu.be/hX8V0WCWllM
The younger pilot was the PIC, the Lear was his only type rating.
https://youtu.be/hX8V0WCWllM
The younger pilot was the PIC, the Lear was his only type rating.
#83
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Oh, it's you again.
Still struggling to understand the concept, it seems.
That video, and the audio that accompanies it, has been available online for two weeks now, and was originally linked in the second post of this thread. Try to keep up.
Wasteful would be failing to avail one's self of all the information (and lessons to be derived, thereof) associated with this event. That includes the publicly available video.
Try not to lose sight of the fact that this crash occurred in the public domain. It's no secret. It's ridiculous to assert that it should be kept private when the pilot keyed the mic, screaming to his death, as he killed his crew.
Do you need an emotional support animal? Traumatized by a doorbell video? Must be rough.
Actually it is. A type rating wasn't required to solo the T38. A type rating is required for the Learjet. This wasn't a solo flight, wasn't in a T-38, nor was it a military flight. It was a Learjet, which required a type rating. T38: not relevant. Learjet type rating: relevant.
Still struggling to understand the concept, it seems.
That video, and the audio that accompanies it, has been available online for two weeks now, and was originally linked in the second post of this thread. Try to keep up.
Wasteful would be failing to avail one's self of all the information (and lessons to be derived, thereof) associated with this event. That includes the publicly available video.
Try not to lose sight of the fact that this crash occurred in the public domain. It's no secret. It's ridiculous to assert that it should be kept private when the pilot keyed the mic, screaming to his death, as he killed his crew.
Do you need an emotional support animal? Traumatized by a doorbell video? Must be rough.
Actually it is. A type rating wasn't required to solo the T38. A type rating is required for the Learjet. This wasn't a solo flight, wasn't in a T-38, nor was it a military flight. It was a Learjet, which required a type rating. T38: not relevant. Learjet type rating: relevant.
#84
You got the ground school, you got the flight training in the airplane, you had very structured training that led up to that…somebody signed your paperwork, .bro that’s a type rating.
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
#86
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Not by a long shot. Dan takes glee in castigating, slandering crews, without researching, gathering, disseminating, and stating technical aircraft related facts. Not once has he made a public apology for getting it wrong.
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Agree with this sentiment. Totally unnecessary analogy/comparison between a learjet and supersonic fighter/trainer with an ejection seat.
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But in this case the guy did not, his linkedin profile pretty clearly shows a career-changer with a little CFI experience 18+ years ago, and less than three years turbine experience (recently, with the air ambulance company). So not highly experienced in general, and especially not in jets.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-grande-0b916214/
SIC does not appear to have any greater experience, although he might possibly have been an ex-fighter pilot, blue angel, etc. But probably not since google shows he has several patents for electrical engineering type inventions.
#89
To put this to rest, a pilot *could* have military experience which doesn't show up in the FAA airman data because of lack of equivalent ratings.
But in this case the guy did not, his linkedin profile pretty clearly shows a career-changer with a little CFI experience 18+ years ago, and less than three years turbine experience (recently, with the air ambulance company). So not highly experienced in general, and especially not in jets.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-grande-0b916214/
SIC does not appear to have any greater experience, although he might possibly have been an ex-fighter pilot, blue angel, etc. But probably not since google shows he has several patents for electrical engineering type inventions.
But in this case the guy did not, his linkedin profile pretty clearly shows a career-changer with a little CFI experience 18+ years ago, and less than three years turbine experience (recently, with the air ambulance company). So not highly experienced in general, and especially not in jets.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-grande-0b916214/
SIC does not appear to have any greater experience, although he might possibly have been an ex-fighter pilot, blue angel, etc. But probably not since google shows he has several patents for electrical engineering type inventions.
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I use it for the mil tenants who rent from me, and it has been pretty solid. It's also used fairly extensively now by employers to verify past military service on resumes because of the proliferation of fake DD-214 templates on the internet, as well as "valor vulture" websites that expose military fakes/phonies. It can verify active duty periods for literally everyone who served a day or more of active duty (NOT reservists) going back about 40 years. I don't care enough to look but if anyone else does, I doubt you'll find anything.
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