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Old 07-09-2013 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by brianb
I honestly don't know enough about the event to give you an informed opinion. Is it possible? yes. After all, I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night and it was illuminating. I honestly think that some folks don't want to hear any truth?, that may differ from their comfort zone. I will get back to you later after some investigation. I have to go warm up my flying saucer.
OK - I look forward to hearing your opinions after your research then.
Remember to take into account the tidbits of information that I presented in post #74 (re: effective UNclassified ranges of possible missile systems, timing of three simultaneous strikes from different locations, and the veil of secrecy that would be required for three launches of live warheads resulting in a shoot down of a civilian airliner).
Old 07-09-2013 | 09:33 AM
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I will confess that certain events have caused me to have a certain distrust of our federal government. While conspiracy theories are indeed often either amusing or entertaining, and sometimes intriguing, I don't think it appropriate to summarily label and dismiss every conspiracy theory just because it fits the label. I see myself as sometimes more of a scientist than an engineer. I tend to believe what the engineering manual says, but I remain open to the notion that new information could (at least theoretically) come to light. I don't see any new information coming to light here, in part because of the many who seem willing or eager to exclude new information unless it is "provable beyond reasonable doubt". On the other hand, neither is it the burden of the disbeliever to disprove every crackpot theory beyond reasonable doubt. If it were, my name might be Russel, and I might have a teapot in solar orbit.
Old 07-09-2013 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bliddel
I will confess that certain events have caused me to have a certain distrust of our federal government. While conspiracy theories are indeed often either amusing or entertaining, and sometimes intriguing, I don't think it appropriate to summarily label and dismiss every conspiracy theory just because it fits the label. I see myself as sometimes more of a scientist than an engineer. I tend to believe what the engineering manual says, but I remain open to the notion that new information could (at least theoretically) come to light. I don't see any new information coming to light here, in part because of the many who seem willing or eager to exclude new information unless it is "provable beyond reasonable doubt". On the other hand, neither is it the burden of the disbeliever to disprove every crackpot theory beyond reasonable doubt. If it were, my name might be Russel, and I might have a teapot in solar orbit.
Excellent.
Maybe you will also take a look at the items I suggested before and take a scientific/engineering approach to explaining the tactics, logistics and timing of such a feat; THEN add in the human factors explanation of keeping it all quite.

I think it was ridculous knwoing what I know when the theory was one missile. Now the *new light* of 3 MISSILES were involved according to the review of the show - I can't stop shaking my head at the absurdity of the notion. Here is a bright point in all of this - - maybe the show isn't really trying to push that angle and it is just all a big misunderstanding.
Old 07-09-2013 | 11:05 AM
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This thread is painful to read.

As far as the 800 missile theory goes, it gets divided between people who have actually served in crewed military vehicles and fired real missiles, and people who read Clancy books and watch TV.

The men and women who serve in the military are our neighbors, our friends, regular Joes and Janes, people who would not tolerate a cover up of this magnitude. I'm sorry, no they won't keep their mouths shut because their CO told them to, not with this sort of incident.

And that assumes a missile was fired. The FBI accounted for every single military machine, from ships to helicopters, even craft not missile equipped, and either verified that they were well out of range, or their missile load was intact.

Freaking missiles are not like 9mm rounds in a gun; they are serialized, maintained, and only fired on an authorized range where immense forces are at play to keep things safe.

To the guy who finds the NTSB report "unsatisfying"... so sorry that the actual cause of TWA 800 didn't make you feel good or jazz you sufficiently... it's not a porno. It's just simple fact.
Old 07-09-2013 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyG
9-11 truthers? I've personally known lots of people that pulled airliner parts and luggage from the Pentagon. This firsthand knowledge isn't good enough for them.
I'm not sure if you know where I'm coming from. I am with you. I make fun of 9/11 conspiracy theorists.....like the others on the list.
Old 08-24-2013 | 04:42 PM
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Prior to TWA 800 there was NEVER an inflight aircraft explosion with JET A fuel. The KC 135 tankers that blew up were carrying JP4 a highly explosive fuel.

Many claim the NTSB's report is factual however many respected aviation experts think otherwise and they published a report to Congress a few years after the downing of TWA 800. If you want to read this report I've provided a download link below. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts.

Download here.
Old 08-24-2013 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed
I'm not sure if you know where I'm coming from. I am with you. I make fun of 9/11 conspiracy theorists.....like the others on the list.

Tell me why building 7 fell exactly like the twin towers when it was not hit with an aircraft and I'll abandon my doubts.
Old 08-24-2013 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefishbeagle
Tell me why building 7 fell exactly like the twin towers when it was not hit with an aircraft and I'll abandon my doubts.
I think 767's need to be immediately grounded and deemed a WMD. Just my personal opinion. Until they upgrade the guidance system on the 757, I think they can safely remain in service.
Old 08-24-2013 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by savall
I think 767's need to be immediately grounded and deemed a WMD. Just my personal opinion. Until they upgrade the guidance system on the 757, I think they can safely remain in service.

What's your point? I asked a simple question. Lets hear something relevant.
Old 08-24-2013 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefishbeagle
Prior to TWA 800 there was NEVER an inflight aircraft explosion with JET A fuel. The KC 135 tankers that blew up were carrying JP4 a highly explosive fuel.
So? Before those kc-135s blew up, none had before. Does that mean it was impossible?
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