Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Safety
Malaysian 777 missing >

Malaysian 777 missing

Search

Notices
Safety Accidents, suggestions on improving safety, etc

Malaysian 777 missing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-20-2014 | 05:19 PM
  #751  
80ktsClamp's Avatar
Da Hudge
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
Default

Originally Posted by Mesabah
Well, here we go....


He was just trying to outdo Fox from last night. Check out this gem:

Malaysia Airlines jet held by terrorists in Pakistan? | Interviews | Hannity | Fox News

The 24 hour networks have truly lost it on this one. Hannity and Gen. Idiot really did a number with that interview, though I'm pretty sure Lemon outdid them with the black hole bit.
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 06:16 PM
  #752  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 992
Likes: 0
From: retired
Default

Meagen Kelly had an interview with Senator Saxby Chambliss who said that Boeing had assured him that the XPDR had to be turned off by a human and there was NO WAY that it failed. These people couldn't operate a toaster.
And now the phrase, Zombie Plane, catching on like fire. Dear god I hope they find the flight recorder to end this madness, but I fear that even then, they will claim it was planted
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 06:27 PM
  #753  
jungle's Avatar
With The Resistance
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,191
Likes: 0
From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Default

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
He was just trying to outdo Fox from last night. Check out this gem:

Malaysia Airlines jet held by terrorists in Pakistan? | Interviews | Hannity | Fox News

The 24 hour networks have truly lost it on this one. Hannity and Gen. Idiot really did a number with that interview, though I'm pretty sure Lemon outdid them with the black hole bit.

Amazing what a so called General will do for few bucks today, no worse than most of the media pundits.

Anyone have the vid of the film actors guild on "Team America"?
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 06:48 PM
  #754  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Erick
The media is very short on credible sources for this story so at least if they are here they are listening to actual pilots - I think that is a good thing. I'm a psyc prof, not a pilot, and very interested in how behavior fits into whatever happened so I am here to learn as well. I don't have a theory because I don't know enough to have one and I am not a pilot.
The complaints about the newbies posting here isn't that they are "listening", the problem is that they are putting down stakes and making ridiculous pronouncements as to what happened.

You say you are an "experimental psychologist", whatever that is. If you are a psychologist, you, more than we, would understand human behavior. If one of the crew took over and committed "suicide" by running the jet out of gas after disabling/killing everyone else by depressurizing the plane long enough to deplete the onboard oxygen, why? Why fly for hours after taking over the plane instead of pointing it at the deck - as has been done before?

You're the psychologist, if it were terrorism, why has there been no pronouncement by some terrorist group? They live for that crap. Educate us.
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 06:51 PM
  #755  
ildarin's Avatar
New Hire
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
And now the phrase, Zombie Plane, catching on like fire.
Maybe that's not so unreasonable.
I'm convinced that they ran into Captain Vanderdecken and are now doomed to try to round Cape Horn until they can pass the baton to someone else.
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 06:53 PM
  #756  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 992
Likes: 0
From: retired
Default

Originally Posted by jungle
Amazing what a so called General will do for few bucks today, no worse than most of the media pundits.

Anyone have the vid of the film actors guild on "Team America"?
Are we witnessing rapidly progressing dementia in real time?
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 07:00 PM
  #757  
jungle's Avatar
With The Resistance
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,191
Likes: 0
From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Default

Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
Are we witnessing rapidly progressing dementia in real time?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbuVa6GEJUg
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 08:26 PM
  #758  
On Reserve
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by LightAttack
The complaints about the newbies posting here isn't that they are "listening", the problem is that they are putting down stakes and making ridiculous pronouncements as to what happened.

You say you are an "experimental psychologist", whatever that is. If you are a psychologist, you, more than we, would understand human behavior. If one of the crew took over and committed "suicide" by running the jet out of gas after disabling/killing everyone else by depressurizing the plane long enough to deplete the onboard oxygen, why? Why fly for hours after taking over the plane instead of pointing it at the deck - as has been done before?

You're the psychologist, if it were terrorism, why has there been no pronouncement by some terrorist group? They live for that crap. Educate us.
Experimental psychologists primarily do research (mostly in labs). My first graduate degree was in exp psyc and I spent most of my time at NIH studying neural pathways that mediate anxiety. Gave a lot of rats a lot of benzodiazepines such as alprazolam (Xanax) and then competively blocked various neural pathways to determine which one transported the drug to get an anxiolytic effect. A wordy response but it gives you an idea of what that field does. My second grad degree is in counseling and I am primarily interested in abnormal behavior.

Most of the time, anyone willing to kill or harm a large group of people likely has antisocial personality disorderr (sociopath) but some folks are just zealots and feel that God is calling them (odd behavior for a God - but that's my point of view). Anway, these folks are incapable of empathy, have no moral compass, and no sense of right or wrong and some report that they only time they feel anything at all is when they are harming someone else (check YouTube for "The Ice Man").

Anyway, I do enjoy following the conversation and I am learning a lot. When this story first broke I figured I would find some pilots rather than listen to talking heads discuss such low probability events such as a black hole eating a jet (if a jet is on the event horizon for a black hole I gotta believe the rest of the planet is likely as well).

Thanks and take care,

Erick
Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 08:28 PM
  #759  
:-)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
Likes: 1
Default

We have yet to hear this theory, but I'm sure it's coming, MSNBC perhaps???

Reply
Old 03-20-2014 | 08:31 PM
  #760  
On Reserve
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by ildarin
Maybe that's not so unreasonable.
I'm convinced that they ran into Captain Vanderdecken and are now doomed to try to round Cape Horn until they can pass the baton to someone else.
Many (or most) people cannot tolerate disequilibration (not knowing or understanding) so they fill the void with anything so long at is some kind of answer. Zombies aircraft and jet-swallowing black holes gives you a sense of how desparate that need can be.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Roll Inverted and Pull
Major
8
03-04-2008 06:36 PM
boost
Cargo
1
02-01-2008 03:38 PM
Dog Breath
Hangar Talk
8
09-13-2007 08:48 AM
madfoxjay
Part 135
8
09-06-2007 08:25 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices