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Old 03-20-2014, 05:19 PM
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Well, here we go....


He was just trying to outdo Fox from last night. Check out this gem:

Malaysia Airlines jet held by terrorists in Pakistan? | Interviews | Hannity | Fox News

The 24 hour networks have truly lost it on this one. Hannity and Gen. Idiot really did a number with that interview, though I'm pretty sure Lemon outdid them with the black hole bit.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:16 PM
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Meagen Kelly had an interview with Senator Saxby Chambliss who said that Boeing had assured him that the XPDR had to be turned off by a human and there was NO WAY that it failed. These people couldn't operate a toaster.
And now the phrase, Zombie Plane, catching on like fire. Dear god I hope they find the flight recorder to end this madness, but I fear that even then, they will claim it was planted
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
He was just trying to outdo Fox from last night. Check out this gem:

Malaysia Airlines jet held by terrorists in Pakistan? | Interviews | Hannity | Fox News

The 24 hour networks have truly lost it on this one. Hannity and Gen. Idiot really did a number with that interview, though I'm pretty sure Lemon outdid them with the black hole bit.

Amazing what a so called General will do for few bucks today, no worse than most of the media pundits.

Anyone have the vid of the film actors guild on "Team America"?
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Erick View Post
The media is very short on credible sources for this story so at least if they are here they are listening to actual pilots - I think that is a good thing. I'm a psyc prof, not a pilot, and very interested in how behavior fits into whatever happened so I am here to learn as well. I don't have a theory because I don't know enough to have one and I am not a pilot.
The complaints about the newbies posting here isn't that they are "listening", the problem is that they are putting down stakes and making ridiculous pronouncements as to what happened.

You say you are an "experimental psychologist", whatever that is. If you are a psychologist, you, more than we, would understand human behavior. If one of the crew took over and committed "suicide" by running the jet out of gas after disabling/killing everyone else by depressurizing the plane long enough to deplete the onboard oxygen, why? Why fly for hours after taking over the plane instead of pointing it at the deck - as has been done before?

You're the psychologist, if it were terrorism, why has there been no pronouncement by some terrorist group? They live for that crap. Educate us.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:51 PM
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And now the phrase, Zombie Plane, catching on like fire.
Maybe that's not so unreasonable.
I'm convinced that they ran into Captain Vanderdecken and are now doomed to try to round Cape Horn until they can pass the baton to someone else.
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Originally Posted by jungle View Post
Amazing what a so called General will do for few bucks today, no worse than most of the media pundits.

Anyone have the vid of the film actors guild on "Team America"?
Are we witnessing rapidly progressing dementia in real time?
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Old 03-20-2014, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr View Post
Are we witnessing rapidly progressing dementia in real time?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbuVa6GEJUg
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LightAttack View Post
The complaints about the newbies posting here isn't that they are "listening", the problem is that they are putting down stakes and making ridiculous pronouncements as to what happened.

You say you are an "experimental psychologist", whatever that is. If you are a psychologist, you, more than we, would understand human behavior. If one of the crew took over and committed "suicide" by running the jet out of gas after disabling/killing everyone else by depressurizing the plane long enough to deplete the onboard oxygen, why? Why fly for hours after taking over the plane instead of pointing it at the deck - as has been done before?

You're the psychologist, if it were terrorism, why has there been no pronouncement by some terrorist group? They live for that crap. Educate us.
Experimental psychologists primarily do research (mostly in labs). My first graduate degree was in exp psyc and I spent most of my time at NIH studying neural pathways that mediate anxiety. Gave a lot of rats a lot of benzodiazepines such as alprazolam (Xanax) and then competively blocked various neural pathways to determine which one transported the drug to get an anxiolytic effect. A wordy response but it gives you an idea of what that field does. My second grad degree is in counseling and I am primarily interested in abnormal behavior.

Most of the time, anyone willing to kill or harm a large group of people likely has antisocial personality disorderr (sociopath) but some folks are just zealots and feel that God is calling them (odd behavior for a God - but that's my point of view). Anway, these folks are incapable of empathy, have no moral compass, and no sense of right or wrong and some report that they only time they feel anything at all is when they are harming someone else (check YouTube for "The Ice Man").

Anyway, I do enjoy following the conversation and I am learning a lot. When this story first broke I figured I would find some pilots rather than listen to talking heads discuss such low probability events such as a black hole eating a jet (if a jet is on the event horizon for a black hole I gotta believe the rest of the planet is likely as well).

Thanks and take care,

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Old 03-20-2014, 08:28 PM
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We have yet to hear this theory, but I'm sure it's coming, MSNBC perhaps???

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Old 03-20-2014, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ildarin View Post
Maybe that's not so unreasonable.
I'm convinced that they ran into Captain Vanderdecken and are now doomed to try to round Cape Horn until they can pass the baton to someone else.
Many (or most) people cannot tolerate disequilibration (not knowing or understanding) so they fill the void with anything so long at is some kind of answer. Zombies aircraft and jet-swallowing black holes gives you a sense of how desparate that need can be.
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