USMCFLYR

So you use a few examples where structural failure DID NOT cause the loss of the aircraft and then want "conclusive proof" that it would happen?
So if you were to find some examples where structural failure DID cause the loss of the aircraft would you accept that as conclusive?
You seem to like research.
I'll start you off with China Airlines 611 and JAL 123.
EasternATC nails it with respect to your ideas of psychology 101.
Always and never seldom work out. Try and remember that when you write your story.

F4E Mx

If you did have a fire in the cockpit you would not necessarily have a structural failure. You would expect the pilots to depressurize the aircraft, descend, and head for the nearest suitable airport. The aircraft did descend, and did a 120 degree left turn in the general direction of an airport with a 12,500 foot runway.

satpak77

An otherwise perfectly normal jumbo jet in the ocean is "evidence of an aircraft malfunction", at least for me. And the terrorist/suicide theory has gained a lot of fans on this thread, and in the media.

Absent information of that, the focus should be on mechanical problems/crew physiological impairment issues/etc

jungle

On what basis did you decide to focus on only one set of possible and plausible explanations?

Is it not possible to focus on all plausible explanations until they are proven to be incorrect?

It appears you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.

chi05

What about FedEx 705? In that incident there was a pilot who had a grudge against the company who tried to hijack the aircraft and crash it. His plan was to make it appear to be an accident so his family could collect his life insurance. He left no note or message of any kind behind.

I'm not saying this is definitely what happened to the Malaysian aircraft, but at this point we don't know enough to discount any theory.

rickair7777

I suspect I have a pretty good idea of how it all went down, but there's no way to know how it got started (accidental fire or deliberate action).

HIFLYR

99% of the time there is time for at least one mayday mayday call out flying over the ocean that would be the first thing I would do. Very few malfunctions would take out all three radios, but going silent is the one of the things that can happen during a hijack or crew involvement.

SyGunson

Thank you for highlighting my point.

It is a possibility that the airframe would break up but not an absolute.

We all know with JAL 123 that the real problem there was loss of most of the tail fin and all hydraulics to flying controls.

With CAL 611 that was not just a mere decompression, but a failure to correctly stitch back the belly after a tailstrike concealed under a lap plate. That aircraft did not merely decompress, it unzipped. That is not a relevant example either because that was not an incident where the aircraft continued to fly.

What we are debating here is whether an aircraft that survives the initial decompression event would stay together structurally for another 7+ hours?

It is not 100% certain it would, but it is not 100% certain it would not.

It was you who demanded it was 100% likely to break up and I cited four examples where aircraft which survived horrific structural impairment continued to fly.

At 17:19 Zulu MH370 turned over IGARI from the previous 25 degree track to 40 degrees suggesting it was taking a shortcut to BIBAN bypassing BITOD. Last airspeed given by the transponder was 471 knots at 35,000. The reconstruction of INMARSAT data concluded it continued into the southern Indian Ocean in steady flight "above 30,000ft" and at an average 450kt. That might be a clue that all else being equal it suffered a 20kt decrease in speed.

USMCFLYR

I'm not sure I highlighted any point you made but gave my own that since very little (to nothing) is known for certain - that you can't make such statements either.

And it wasn't ME who demanded anything - - - so your reporting continues on an inaccurate path

You were asked in a previous post if you were a professional pilot (or had been). Will you be sharing your experience with us?

SyGunson

I'll tell you what I would consider is a suicide note.