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Roy Biggins , 01-07-2022 04:53 PM
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He’s the one the MEC negotiated with. He’s the one who took credit for it on all the pocket sessions. He’s the one who said he “owned it” at the event in Orlando.

In any event the American deal is still a **** deal for us, the network and schedule still suck, and the fleet plan still sucks. He was responsible for all of that.
JetBlue is making a sh!t ton of money off that NEA. I’m not really sure what you’re saying. It may suck for the pilots, but it’s a cash cow for the company.
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JayRalstonSmith , 01-07-2022 05:38 PM
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Are you guys worried about the longevity of the company?
no, are you?
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pilotpayne , 01-08-2022 06:53 AM
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He’s the one the MEC negotiated with. He’s the one who took credit for it on all the pocket sessions. He’s the one who said he “owned it” at the event in Orlando.

In any event the American deal is still a **** deal for us, the network and schedule still suck, and the fleet plan still sucks. He was responsible for all of that.
just saying a deal that big is not done by one dude.
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V2500 , 01-08-2022 07:04 PM
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Not a single person? You might want to check your email. This MEC camel just got its nose under the tent and we didn't have to give up anything in return. Section 6 hasn't even started.
A couple of scheduling committee guys are now going to play computer while the company says “no thanks” each and every month because the company pairing sets with in-base layovers are always cheaper?

The mec officers bungled this horribly half a year ago with the A220 service entry and giving a big thumbs up to in-base layovers.

Good luck to B6 pilots under Section 6 with their current alpa leader.
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A couple of scheduling committee guys are now going to play computer while the company says “no thanks” each and every month because the company pairing sets with in-base layovers are always cheaper?

The mec officers bungled this horribly half a year ago with the A220 service entry and giving a big thumbs up to in-base layovers.

Good luck to B6 pilots under Section 6 with their current alpa leader.
Yea.. Plus 1 to this.

Section 25.A.1 and Section 25.A.7 all spell out what ALPA should have been holding to the company too. To think that this MOU is some sort of win is mind blowing.

Good luck to the SSC building pairings (which should have happened since the CBA was signed) that will be cheaper, more productive and add to QOL of the pilot group.
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Bluetruth , 01-09-2022 07:00 AM
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very valid point.


who knows man , a shake up in the ELT could be good for us or make it even worse. I personally just hope this is not a series of events that lead up to a M&A situation .
Why not? A M&A would be a dream come true. Bring it.
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Why not? A M&A would be a dream come true. Bring it.
I’m all for it now a days. I’m tired of the typical Jetblue and especially tired of our mec leadership.
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Yes, I was really hoping for someone less educated to be in charge of our network.
Harvard MBAs are good at one thing and one thing only.

Extracting as much economic goodwill out of a company and its workforce as possible. Harvard business school is where non sociopaths are turned into sociopaths. They pretty much train you too not look at people as people, but as objects to trick into working for as little as possible, while giving the customers as little as possible as well.

Elon Musk has famously come out against them as they don't really create value. They transfer value from the customers and employees into thier own hands and usually kill the brand in the process.
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A couple of scheduling committee guys are now going to play computer while the company says “no thanks” each and every month because the company pairing sets with in-base layovers are always cheaper?

The mec officers bungled this horribly half a year ago with the A220 service entry and giving a big thumbs up to in-base layovers.

Good luck to B6 pilots under Section 6 with their current alpa leader.
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Thanks! A positive attitude is always refreshing on APC.
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JayRalstonSmith , 01-09-2022 02:17 PM
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Harvard MBAs are good at one thing and one thing only.

Extracting as much economic goodwill out of a company and its workforce as possible. Harvard business school is where non sociopaths are turned into sociopaths. They pretty much train you too not look at people as people, but as objects to trick into working for as little as possible, while giving the customers as little as possible as well.

Elon Musk has famously come out against them as they don't really create value. They transfer value from the customers and employees into thier own hands and usually kill the brand in the process.
If Elon Musk is against them, then I’m for them. Funny though, because his company and Board are full of them. Also, what you’re saying isn’t exactly what he said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-mu...ca-11607548589

Elon also is anti-labor:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/b...bor-board.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/25/tesl...eted-nlrb.html
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