UPS lies to the IPA and they lie to us

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This is one thing I have always felt all unions and management have in common NEITHER one of them trust the pilot group. This leads to neither of them being completely forthcoming with us until it is absolutely necessary.

This is one thing I have always felt all unions and management have in common NEITHER one of them trust the pilot group. This leads to neither of them being completely forthcoming with us until it is absolutely necessary.[/QUOTE]
What I meant to say there was that UPS lies to both the IPA and us. Sorry if anyone thought I said the IPA lies to us.

TH1

So TH1, how many guys do we have signed up for CRAF anyway? I did as soon as I got displaced to a plane that could be used for CRAF.

Puppy: Try the ignore function, it works wonders.

Thanks! I'll try that.

Because the company can still be making money and furlough. Look at the mechanics from DFW / CAE. We aren't a passenger airline where that rule of thumb is prevalent.

Because they will do anything to keep making those profits with no regard what it does to any of us. That part of the equation is up to us. I was just reminded of this fact while reviewing some of the history of GM. They were making Billions of profits when they started closing plants and laying off UAW workers.

Now you sound like him. Was someone twisting your arm to read this stuff <G>?

Where is it written that UPS has to lose money before they furlough? Companies exist to provide a return to their share holders. They are not in business to provide jobs.

Gloom and doom sells newspapers, stories about a cat cooking shrimp alfreddo, do not.

But, I've changed my prior position, UPS has taken the first step towards staffing reduction.

FF