UPS Realignment/Displacement bid is out!
01-28-2009 | 12:57 PM
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To add to that, some things we can do is have more people sign up for CRAF, and get the manglers in the union and under our work rules. I remember reading that UPS would like to do more CRAF work, but doesn't have enough crew members signed up. Don't know how true that is, but if B.O. is gonna completely pull out from Iraq in 18 months as promised, there should be some opportunities. .
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01-28-2009 | 01:45 PM
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The myth that the company can't get mil contracts is just that, a MYTH. The DoD doesn't give a rat's patoot about how many people volunteer for the CRAF. (these contracts are NOT CRAF. They are straight mil contracts.) The only thing that determines OOPS' eligibility to bid on the AMC contracts is how many aircraft we have pledged to the various stages of the CRAF. Remember that if you volunteer for the CRAF you have waived important parts of the contract. Volunteer if you want, by all means, but don't think its going to make any difference how much AMC flying we do.
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Anyway, the reason I brought it up is the August 4, 2008 IPNN:
"UPS is now a "Team Leader" for MAC charters and has dedicated the B767, MD-11, and B747s toward this service, but is woefully short on pilots willing to volunteer for the extra opportunities. IPA Scope Committee Chairman L.P. said, "UPS has indicated to the Association that the only limitation to additional MAC flying is the lack of pilot volunteers."
CRAF is not MAC, and CRAF is not activated at this time. However, I believe MAC charters require volunteers as well, and this is done via the same CRAF survey on the CMS menu. The rest of that IPNN:
"IPA Scope Committee Chairman L. P. said, "UPS has indicated to the Association that the only limitation to additional MAC flying is the lack of pilot volunteers. One of the quickest and best ways to add immediate flying opportunities for the membership is to increase the number of available pilots for MAC flying. It's a volunteer program that starts by filling out a simple survey found on CMS."
IPA estimates UPS' current direct lift to be approximately 30% of all lift offered to the UPS team.
"It's a number that could easily grow if more pilots signed up for the flying. To be clear though, it's a volunteer program and is fully explained in Article 16 of the contract"
CRAF is activated by the US Government and is not currently active. MAC charters, however, are quite active and the demand for lift is steady."
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01-28-2009 | 03:33 PM
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I can't believe I wasted 2 seconds on you. Unreal!
01-28-2009 | 03:34 PM
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01-28-2009 | 04:17 PM
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I want to come back to a good contract. Not one that was gutted to save a few and will more then likely never return to status quo.
Trust me I have been there. UPS is one of the last good 121 jobs in the world. Don't F with it.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me I am getting through to you.
01-28-2009 | 05:18 PM
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I know you were referring to someone else but this is the wrong way to think. NEVER EVER take a paycut to save a job. You will NEVER get it back and it makes life miserable for everyone. Including the peoples jobs you try to save. It is better to be on the street for a bit and to come back to a good contract then work under a piece of crap one with low wages. It will put more gray hair on your head then staying home watching the price is right everyday.
I want to come back to a good contract. Not one that was gutted to save a few and will more then likely never return to status quo.
Trust me I have been there. UPS is one of the last good 121 jobs in the world. Don't F with it.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me I am getting through to you.
I want to come back to a good contract. Not one that was gutted to save a few and will more then likely never return to status quo.
Trust me I have been there. UPS is one of the last good 121 jobs in the world. Don't F with it.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me I am getting through to you.
01-28-2009 | 05:58 PM
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I know you were referring to someone else but this is the wrong way to think. NEVER EVER take a paycut to save a job. You will NEVER get it back and it makes life miserable for everyone. Including the peoples jobs you try to save. It is better to be on the street for a bit and to come back to a good contract then work under a piece of crap one with low wages. It will put more gray hair on your head then staying home watching the price is right everyday.
I want to come back to a good contract. Not one that was gutted to save a few and will more then likely never return to status quo.
Trust me I have been there. UPS is one of the last good 121 jobs in the world. Don't F with it.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me I am getting through to you.
I want to come back to a good contract. Not one that was gutted to save a few and will more then likely never return to status quo.
Trust me I have been there. UPS is one of the last good 121 jobs in the world. Don't F with it.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me I am getting through to you.
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