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ThumbsUp , 04-07-2023 01:17 PM
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Okay, thank you very much for the details. Your concrete example is very helpful to my understanding. That actually sounds not too bad (about half time home as a commuter). I was just concerned I could end up away from home 18 days a month (or maybe more if I had to commute the day before or after)!

If you commute, particularly on a NB, you can count on most of those days being gone, simply due to the late-night callouts. Unless you can at all times have a primary flight and a backup for your assignment, there comes a point where you have to commute on LC. Example: scheduling notifies you that you have a a 0600 SC at 1900 the night prior. Can you get to the airport in enough time to have two flights that could get you to EWR for the earliest report of 0830?
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B737 or A320 would get you to ORD the fastest. If you get forced to a WB as a new hire good luck
Gotcha, that's definitely my hope to get in on the NB side. Given the past few class drops, anyone know where the 8-balls ended up?
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Gotcha, that's definitely my hope to get in on the NB side. Given the past few class drops, anyone know where the 8-balls ended up?
My class (this week 4-4) they got 320. We only had maybe 2 777 and 1 787.
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Sorry if I'm being slow to understand, but are you saying people often have all LC days used for something else (SC, FSB, or flight), or are you saying people often have all LC days remain as unused LC?

(I swear, I'm smart in other ways, but I'm sometimes very dense on bidding/seniority/etc for some reason!)
last summer, I went 4 months without a single long call reserve day. I was used for something(or picked something up to minimize the pain) every single day for 4 months. Long Call was just something you read about in fairy tails.
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Wait, so what about commuting to LCR WB FO?
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Maybe this will help because I can see the confusion on the way the previous answer was written("Even then! I've seen maybe 3 LCRs in 4 months"). As NB you may start the month with all those long calls thinking great I'll sit at home and commute up when they call. Well the evening before your long call day the phone rings, you don't answer, screen the call. Screw scheduling assigning you to SC starting at 10am. If not used, they then later assign you FSB for the next day . If not used then you think you're going into LC finally. Phone rings, It's your lucky day. You have been selected to help people get to weddings, funerals, business meetings, vacations, even Diney World after the super Bowl. You are truly excited to be so helpful. Only downside is, your block in flight misses the last departure to get home by 15 minutes. This happens again, and again, and again. So, viola, only 3 or 4 LC in 3 months!!

Welcome to the brotherhood of, "Well, commuting IS a choice. I lived through it, you can too. There are bigger things than trying to get industry standard(Delta) reserve rules. Suck it up buttercup"

Hope this provides a little clarity. Totally diff story on WB or if you live in base, it's much more palatable
Thank you for the information, it does help. And the end of your comment leads me to my next big question:

What about commuting to LCR as a WB FO? That's actually what I was most interested in (commuting AUS to EWR or SFO), and now I'm very curious if that might be a little better than what I'm hearing about commuting to LCR in general.
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last summer, I went 4 months without a single long call reserve day. I was used for something(or picked something up to minimize the pain) every single day for 4 months. Long Call was just something you read about in fairy tails.
Oof, sorry for your loss. Now that I'm hearing there's a difference, was that NB or WB?
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If you commute, particularly on a NB, you can count on most of those days being gone, simply due to the late-night callouts. Unless you can at all times have a primary flight and a backup for your assignment, there comes a point where you have to commute on LC. Example: scheduling notifies you that you have a a 0600 SC at 1900 the night prior. Can you get to the airport in enough time to have two flights that could get you to EWR for the earliest report of 0830?
Okay, that's helpful to know. Any idea what it's like for WB? (I'm hoping it's at least a little better.)
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Okay, that's helpful to know. Any idea what it's like for WB? (I'm hoping it's at least a little better.)
You don’t want to commute to reserve on any fleet. It will take years off your life. The only advantage to a WB is that there are less of them, so there are less disruptions to cover. But you’ll get rollled into your days off and spend the majority of your time in a crashpad. Don’t bid anything that you can’t drive to as a reserve or commute to as a lineholder. If you have to commute to reserve, pick whatever is the shortest path to a line, which is generally a NB.
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You don’t want to commute to reserve on any fleet. It will take years off your life. The only advantage to a WB is that there are less of them, so there are less disruptions to cover. But you’ll get rollled into your days off and spend the majority of your time in a crashpad. Don’t bid anything that you can’t drive to as a reserve or commute to as a lineholder. If you have to commute to reserve, pick whatever is the shortest path to a line, which is generally a NB.
This. There is so much domestic widebody flying now the lines are blurred.
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If you're in AUS bid the 737 and try to get to IAH as soon as you can. At least then you'll have the option of driving.
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