That doesn't change what I said.

There were negotiations, the company wanted what benefitted them the most and would have left the pilots with the short end of the stick. The company imposed their rules and hasn't looked back. They "tried" only just enough to realize that they couldn't force us to take their usual abuses, then quit.

This is correct. The union is as much to blame as management is, at the line pilots expense of course. Management saw their performance numbers go through the roof so decided to stop negotiations and let the arbitration process play out. It's too bad because a mutually beneficial agreement can be attained, it just requires a lot of work and likely a completely new set of rules.

Granted what the reserves were doing was hurting the company. The difference is the union was willing to negotiate towards something better where the company pulled from the table and used some self help to remedy the situation. Outside of railway labor act if I've ever seen it. We will find out the ruling once we get the arbitrators ruling.

In the interest of facts, we rejected more than one offer, some of which were now in hindsight really good offers. They finally said they didn't want to play this anymore or deal w the union games and thus here we are.

If you are selling your car for $10,000 and I offer you $100 and refuse to pay more. Did I blow the deal or did you because you refused my offer?

If your wife is selling her car worth $5000 and has a close friend who needs a new car right away who offers $7000 and your wife says I'll only take $9000, the person offers $7500 and your wife says $8000 lbfo and the person buys another car from someone else. Next day your wife bumps a guard rail with her car and it's now worth $3000 at best. Do you blame your wife or everyone else on earth?

If we fail at arbitration, which is entirely possible our leverage drops to nearly zero to get the company to negotiate something better than preassigned RAPs. In that situation your $1000 offer would be better than zero. How confident are you in arbitration?

See. You should have taken the $100 and thrown in a sweetener because your lucky to have been offered $100

The company fully understands when it comes to arbitration that a win for them is a loss for us which ends up being a loss for them in today's environment. Our contract, work rules, pay rates and relationship with management gets worse by the day in light of the current regional market.

Since we are having a good time with these car metaphors. To me it's a 10000 car. Offered 8000. Countered at 9500. Offered 8500. Say no 9250. Company walks away and steals the car for free and hopes the cops don't catch em.