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Old 08-05-2016 | 06:42 AM
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Hotel in DFW should be the Holiday Inn on the corner of 121 and 183. (Don't think they use the Atrium for training) not sure about stl.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 06:44 AM
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STL is the Drury Inn by the airport.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyWago
Hotel in DFW should be the Holiday Inn on the corner of 121 and 183. (Don't think they use the Atrium for training) not sure about stl.
Originally Posted by Bassman1985
STL is the Drury Inn by the airport.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Thanks guys. I appreciate it.
Not much around the Drury, unfortunately. But on the plus side, you can take the hotel bus back to the airport and go to downtown STL and stuff to kill time on off days. Also they have dinner there every night and 2 free drinks.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Russell
If he truly is a member of management, then that would seem to indicate they are aware of the issues and even with that, simply couldn't care less. In other words, nothing has changed and likely nothing will because it's still the pilots fault.
He is just an asst CP. Not a high level manager like some believe. Unfortunately, I do believe that such an attitude does exist among the higher level management. It really is too bad. I don't think that envoy is any worse than all the other regionals but it used to be a great place. So much better than it is now. Pilots like me came to Eagle, despite the high upgrade times, because of that.

Jack Russell is right though. A key distinguishing characteristic of a great management team to a horrible one, is whether they take personal responsibility for their company's state or push the blame on someone else. It would seem to me that is the only thing some of our managers are good at, passing the blame (and responsibility) to someone else.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
He is just an asst CP. Not a high level manager like some believe. Unfortunately, I do believe that such an attitude does exist among the higher level management. It really is too bad. I don't think that envoy is any worse than all the other regionals but it used to be a great place. So much better than it is now. Pilots like me came to Eagle, despite the high upgrade times, because of that.



Jack Russell is right though. A key distinguishing characteristic of a great management team to a horrible one, is whether they take personal responsibility for their company's state or push the blame on someone else. It would seem to me that is the only thing some of our managers are good at, passing the blame (and responsibility) to someone else.


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Old 08-05-2016 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by N927EV
Not much around the Drury, unfortunately. But on the plus side, you can take the hotel bus back to the airport and go to downtown STL and stuff to kill time on off days. Also they have dinner there every night and 2 free drinks.
That's not too bad. It's about a 7 hour drive for me, so if I'm going to be down there for a few weeks, I will most likely drive. Not sure about DFW. A 17 hour drive sucks.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
That's not too bad. It's about a 7 hour drive for me, so if I'm going to be down there for a few weeks, I will most likely drive. Not sure about DFW. A 17 hour drive sucks.
True...but...

Having a car in DFW while in training will give you the liberty to go around and eat wherever you want. You can go out on weekends and have an easier life overall.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 08:51 AM
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Ray did not get fired for social media.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
Ray did not get fired for social media.
And in fact, his firing was straight up illegal, and was reversed with back pay.
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