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1257 , 10-13-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CPPfacts

XJT guy should get priority over Republic. We are United exclusive and partially owned by United. Republic guy may be covering AA or DL flying.

XJT does get priority on an exclusive jumpseat, not on a non-exclusive jumpseat.

So priority on Trans States but not SkyWest as an example.

#232

thaddiusMbuggs , 10-13-2019 05:14 PM

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https://www.allstate.com/tr/personal...liability.aspx

I think everyone on this board will be up for a law suit based off that!

#233

CPPfacts , 10-13-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1257

XJT does get priority on an exclusive jumpseat, not on a non-exclusive jumpseat.

So priority on Trans States but not SkyWest as an example.

So how does that work for a Skywest or Republic Pilot on a United Flight? Who knows who they are flying for? They should go behind XJT. Very simple.

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1257 , 10-13-2019 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CPPfacts

So how does that work for a Skywest or Republic Pilot on a United Flight? Who knows who they are flying for? They should go behind XJT. Very simple.

Correct, UAL jumpseat respects exclusive carriers as Delta does. (keep in mind non-exclusive up with GoJet and above "other" when signed)

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#235

CPPfacts , 10-13-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1257

Correct, UAL jumpseat respects exclusive carriers as Delta does.

I agree with that. I’m trying to figure out why Skywest and RAH have a problem with that and why they have now kicked me off the jumpseat over it.

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BusBoy88 , 10-13-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ICUROOK

So a pilot is supposed to violate their FOM because some joker on the internet (you) says it okay? Or should they follow their FOM and avoid any ambiguity whatsoever?

I think I'll choose the latter thank you very much

I guess a moderator must have deleted my reply pointing out why you are probably still at Republic.

#237

1257 , 10-13-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CPPfacts

I agree with that. I’m trying to figure out why Skywest and RAH have a problem with that and why they have now kicked me off the jumpseat over it.

Honestly I believe most SkyWest/RAH pilots understand this is similar to Delta and is basically standardizing the exclusive/non-exclusive tables.
The whole FOM fear thing is probably fueling the misunderstanding.
Once again, the priority reciprocal agreement is missing in the FOM, not legality to carry a UAL pilot in the jumpseat.

#238

Turbosina , 10-13-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thaddiusMbuggs

Exactly this. We are just as shocked as anyone else this is SAPA's response and a great many of us don't agree with it and any guidance we are getting is minimal at best. I have never hidden the fact I am pro ALPA and also agree SAPA is in over their heads here.

It is extremely disheartening but I have already heard a couple of stories of UA guys who are literally going out of their way to find SKW guys at the airport and on the crew busses to tell them they either accept them on the jump and ignore SAPA or they will personally make it their business to derail future career prospects in response. Don't be that guy/gal. Leave it for behind the door with your FO or CP.

A majority of us truly don't like it anymore than you do.
And lastly just keep in mind that we are all going to have to play nice again when this is sorted out so can we all at least try to act professional?

This right here. Agree 100 percent.

#239

Coot1980 , 10-13-2019 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1257

Should we not fear the FOM?

#240

BusBoy88 , 10-13-2019 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coot1980

Should we not fear the FOM?

If you're going to use the FOM logic then Skywest pilots should fear Jumpseating on UAL or any of the UAX exclusive carriers. If the argument is that you have no agreement at all with each of those carriers and therefore you'd be in violation of your FOM, then I guess you'd be in violation of your FOM if you were to jumpseat on said carriers. I mean certainly acting as an additional crew member, as you are anytime you jumpseat, when you don't have an agreement with that airline according to your FOM could be very dangerous.