CRJ IOE wait time
#41
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While that is all true, I just don’t think that pushing a lot of new hires through training and having them sit out 4-6 months while paying them is very cost effective for the company, and that’s not including the sim time we’ll need for requalification and all of the accommodations that come with that.
I don’t mind getting paid to sit around and do nothing, but I’m not sure it’s doing much to help. I feel maybe putting a couple FOs on IOE every other week would balance it out a bit if the LCA staffing becomes sufficient
I don’t mind getting paid to sit around and do nothing, but I’m not sure it’s doing much to help. I feel maybe putting a couple FOs on IOE every other week would balance it out a bit if the LCA staffing becomes sufficient
#42
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
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Are they also afraid of new hires leaving to other carriers during the wait? Genuine question. It just seems like it go either way. If anything, it’s more detrimental to the company to lose an employee they invested in vs miss the opportunity to hire one
#43
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The number of eligible FOs with a bid in for upgrade (on both platforms) is nearly zero. Handful have post-summer dates. Remains that way for the next four/five months. Why get you thru training? You won’t have a captain to fly with until winter.
#44
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They have much bigger problems then new hire FOs jumping ship. Senior FOs leaving without upgrading for instance.
The number of eligible FOs with a bid in for upgrade (on both platforms) is nearly zero. Handful have post-summer dates. Remains that way for the next four/five months. Why get you thru training? You won’t have a captain to fly with until winter.
The number of eligible FOs with a bid in for upgrade (on both platforms) is nearly zero. Handful have post-summer dates. Remains that way for the next four/five months. Why get you thru training? You won’t have a captain to fly with until winter.
It’s true they have much bigger problems now and the near future, but if a good amount of new hire FOs jump ship then now they have a long term problem. Not only that but the training pipeline will slow down if it hasn’t already and so will their hiring inevitably. Even if they do hire CRJ new hires, many will go elsewhere if given a sooner start date.
I rather sit on reserve and not fly a lot, but still fly somewhat than end up sitting for 6 months not flying at all. Especially, as a new hire and I’m sure I speak for many others but not flying or being in a sim for such a long time will degrade proficiency, this causing extra IOE and extra training if need be. There’s only so much you can read and study, in the end it boils down to physically doing it.
Last edited by FlyGuy99; 05-07-2022 at 05:03 PM.
#45
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Senior FOs and even those who upgrade to CA will be leaving indefinitely regardless with the current rate of hiring going on at the ULCCs and Majors.
It’s true they have much bigger problems now and the near future, but if a good amount of new hire FOs jump ship then now they have a long term problem. Not only that but the training pipeline will slow down if it hasn’t already and so will their hiring inevitably. Even if they do hire CRJ new hires, many will go elsewhere if given a sooner start date.
I rather sit on reserve and not fly a lot, but still fly somewhat than end up sitting for 6 months not flying at all. Especially, as a new hire and I’m sure I speak for many others but not flying or being in a sim for such a long time will degrade proficiency, this causing extra IOE and extra training if need be. There’s only so much you can read and study, in the end it boils down to physically doing it.
It’s true they have much bigger problems now and the near future, but if a good amount of new hire FOs jump ship then now they have a long term problem. Not only that but the training pipeline will slow down if it hasn’t already and so will their hiring inevitably. Even if they do hire CRJ new hires, many will go elsewhere if given a sooner start date.
I rather sit on reserve and not fly a lot, but still fly somewhat than end up sitting for 6 months not flying at all. Especially, as a new hire and I’m sure I speak for many others but not flying or being in a sim for such a long time will degrade proficiency, this causing extra IOE and extra training if need be. There’s only so much you can read and study, in the end it boils down to physically doing it.
#48
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Funny enough, I got a hold of the IOE supervisor this beautiful Saturday morning somehow. They weren’t able to give me a timeline nor really any information different since I last spoke to them a month ago
#49
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LCA s can request "no IOE assigned" after their monthly bid. SKW does not force their LCAs to do IOE.
Last edited by Seminole00; 05-07-2022 at 08:31 PM.
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