I will be honest anything to do with the initial SLI would be speculation on my part because i havent seen the official stance from either side. As far as i am concerned i am not worried about the past. From all of the documentation i have seen from BOTH mecs it looks like EVERY base was covered in regards to the SLI and the JPWA. If you read all of it everyone is protected and it makes sure that WE dont turn into the next USAIR. Thats why both sides Unanimously ratified it. They have all the facts and they both know this is whats best for the entire collective NEW DAL. This is a true opportunity to buck the trend and really make this new company an industry leader in every way and give us all the best chance of having some stability in this stupid business. Again i am not taking either side i am taking the New Delta's side.

I don't know about you, but I'd prefer that my union do what's best for me and my pilot group, not what's best for the "collective new DAL."

They are. Why do you feel otherwise? They did unanimously ratify it just like the NWA side did. prior to LOA 19 you felt they were doing what was best for you so what changed? Honest questions.

If you read the documentation you will realize both sides did a very good job ensuring the deal was done right. They made sure nobody would lose anything. No displacements, no lost pay, increased pay, increased stability, and a stronger company for all of us. Its going to happen one way or the other at least this way we all get more and we dont further divide the pilot group. just a thought.

Spliff..you are too funny.....'best for me and my pilot group' How long have you been working at the Old DAL? I think not long. Your motto truly is 'Semper I'

True all.

"Semper I..."

I like it!

Has it ever occurred to you that what is best for the "collective new DAL" IS what's best for you and your pilot group (and mine)?

This merger is happening...period, end of story. Voting this Joint TA down would not be a good thing. Given the current crisis state of this industry it is a very good agreement and worthy of ratification. The quicker we get this thing done and move on as a combined kick-tail company the better.

Deliberately pursuing a strategy that would encourage a USAir-style mess seems bizarre to me.

I guess the ultimate question is: if we shoot this TA down, what is a superior Plan B? I don't think that there is one.

There is no better Plan B. It's just the old mentality that's a time honored play back to the days when airlines were profitable and the union members "always voted down the first contract because they can do better". We are the only US legacies that haven't announced furloughs this fall. Perhaps they're waiting behind the curtain and will be announced after the DCC. However, every month that is delayed is another month that we junior guys collect a paycheck, are able to save, possibly get closer to coming out of this abyss, etc.

My survival plan is vote Yes. I don't see how anyone could think we could do better. I would rather have $7 billion cash in the bank than half that. I would rather have a completely diversified company than lack the Asian routes or vice versa if you're NWA. People need to look around them. The world is going into a recession right now. Europe is slowing down, China's market is off 50% for the year, India and Latin America are seeing signs of pressure. Odds are, one of these areas will help lead the recovery. If we're the biggest carrier in the world we can capitalize on that versus hinging our recovery to certain markets.

Bottom line: Voting No means a trip to door C. The two sides couldn't come to an agreement months ago which was a No vote and look where that got us. A worse agreement and that was when oil was $90/barrel. What makes anyone sure we can do better with oil at $145/barrel?

Great posts! This is going to happen and whats going to give us the best shot at success for all is to put the swords down and move forward as 1 solid unified pilot group. Looking forward to it!!

The roof is falling on my head. Bla Bla Kumba yaya and on the music goes

If the roof is going to fall voting yes is not going to make any difference in my opinion.

Vote your beliefs and do not let the economy pressure you. The contract is for 4 years and this situation could change tomorrow for better or worse

I am yet to personally meet a Delta pilot who has told me he will vote for this TA. Their reasons are not always related to if they feel the TA is good or bad. It has to do more with the SLI.

The reason why the union is in no hurry to schedule a vote right now on the Delta side is because the TA would get a NO vote!

In all seriousness are you oblivious to your surroundings? By all means have a difference of opinion but at least open your eyes to whats going on around you and get informed from your MEC. Voting NO only and gives up the pay increases, synergies, pushes off the ability for DAL mgmt to give this the best shot at stability and making this the world leader airline it ciuld become.. Not to mention further divides what could be a great pilot group.

I know you probably dont care about the long term success of the new Delta since you are actively attempting to get on at Emirates. How did the open house go? Will you be leaving us?