You never responded to my question about your 16 year contract. Was I right?

Are you f'ing kidding me? Please show me where this caveat that PSA would be shut down if you didn't take concessions. Now would you experience the record growth that you are now? (at the expense of others, no less) Absolutely not. Would you be shut down? Ha, you're unbelievable if you actually think that. Seriously, show me where this caveat is that PSA would be shut down, I'm curious now.

Parker has said time and time again that he wants the flying to be done by the wholly-owned, so do you really think that every single airplane they had on order was going to be farmed out to Mesa, Compass, GoJet, etc; Seriously, do you really think that that was the future had PSA said no?

What are you, 12? You're probably that PSA guy I saw on the bus in DCA that had a Joe Dirt beard, lol. Class act! Must be nice knowing everyone in the industry looks down on you guys.

Yeah a 16 yr contract was voted in back in 2000 I believe. What about it?

Man, I wish I could be as cool as you! You must take some really awesome cockpit selfies showing off your awesomeness to the world!

He would have absolutely shut it down. Do you not think he would have shut Envoy down, too? You have misplaced anger. PSA has 1150 pilots, and more than 90% did not vote yes, yet you have blind rage?

You were tricked by your MEC and continue to believe it. You have a serious case of Stockholm Syndrome.

First, it was made clear to the union reps that PSA would be shut down if they voted no a third time, (just like it was made known to ENVOY'S union reps). Additionally, the Chief Pilots made it know that the shut-down process was already slated to begin 30 days after that no vote. We can't show you anything to prove this to you,...... just like you can't show us anything to prove that Envoy was going to be shut down. Envoy pilots believed 'em. PSA pilots believed 'em.

Secondly, your argument that Parker "wants the flying to be done by the wholly-owned(s)" falls on itself when faced with the FACT that he DID give so many planes to Mesa, Republic, Compass, etc. instead of PSA and Envoy. Sure he'd like to keep it in-house, but if he could use it as a weapon to force concessions on his wholly-owned pilots, HE WILL! And HE HAS!

No I do not believe at all that PSA would be shut down had you said no. AAG would have realized that what they were asking for was not feasible and the proverbial bar would not have been lowered. Have you not heard of the laws of supply and demand? AAG did everything in their power to circumvent these basic laws through fear and intimidation, and they clearly succeeded. At least envoy, express jet, and republic tried to take a stand when cowards such as your pilot group bowed out at the first sign that things would not be easy.

I don't expect to change your mind about how your pilot group is perceived. Someone said it best before when describing PSA pilots as "those mother ****ers!" It's not without reason I can assure you that. Whether I was on property for the vote or not, I would absolutely be ashamed to tell others that I'm a pilot for PSA. I'm sure some of you actually say American Eagle, rather then PSA, lol.

I jumpseat on envoy all the time, the only people who care about this are the scum that troll this website. Everybody else understands its just business.


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We get it, you and some people don't like PSA, give it up! If it makes you feel better about yourself to repeatedly come on here and rant then by all means but you are getting olddddddddd. Yawnnnnnn