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Old 04-03-2015 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by skydrol500
As one of the 6 month wonders, I will tell you that upgrade is crazy intense. They make it explicitly clear that they are out to break you if they can when you ask why so intense.

It is primarily because you will be flying with so many new F/Os and CRJs are pretty fragile machines compared to Boeings and Airbuses.

Take it for what it is worth from someone with 20+ years of 121 and a handful of transport category jet types (12,500 to 355,000#s).

I sweated every minute of it until my final line check.

Not to scare anyone who has the skills. Just be prepared when it's your turn.
I'm curious who told you they are out to break you? That is pretty **** poor on the company's part to say something like that. Things must have really changed since I upgraded.
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Old 04-03-2015 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PSASUX
I'm curious who told you they are out to break you? That is pretty **** poor on the company's part to say something like that. Things must have really changed since I upgraded.
I wonder if they mean to break you down on the sim training and over load you with emergencies.
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Old 04-03-2015 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by joek
I wonder if they mean to break you down on the sim training and over load you with emergencies.

My buddy said it wasn't that bad at all. Obviously, some people either get it or they don't get it.


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Old 04-03-2015 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by joek
I wonder if they mean to break you down on the sim training and over load you with emergencies.
Not to sound like a total nerd, but I have heard the instructors call it the Kobayashi Maru. They give you a couple failures which lead you to make a decision between two outcomes, and both are bad. For instance, you will lose deicing and pressurization at 18,000' and your choices are to stay at 18,000' with low oxygen in the back for the passengers or to descend into heavy icing conditions below with no deicing working.

They know it is a bad situation, and they just want to see your decision making skills. In several of the scenarios, there are no good answers. It is a session that is designed to test your leadership and decision making, as well as systems knowledge, not your flying skills.
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Old 04-03-2015 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
My buddy said it wasn't that bad at all. Obviously, some people either get it or they don't get it.


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I agree, upgrade shouldn't be cake walk, but if you know your stuff and can handle some stress it shouldn't be something you can't handle.
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Old 04-03-2015 | 07:01 AM
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Upgrade should be a challenge! Here's how to meet that challenge. Study "hard" before! Ground school is 5 full days of lively discussion/ participation! Know your books before starting!

In the Sim you should see just about everything in the QRH! Read it before you go. Think about the steps of each malfunction & why it is in that order! The first 5 or so lessons you will learn what could go wrong with a CRJ. The good news is your check ride will be very straight forward.

Simply put, come prepared!
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Old 04-03-2015 | 12:43 PM
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Who has a current gouge for the interview? I know they changed the test up a few months ago does anyone have something current...all i have been able to find is from Nov 2014, Thanks
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Old 04-03-2015 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pistonpilot17
Who has a current gouge for the interview? I know they changed the test up a few months ago does anyone have something current...all i have been able to find is from Nov 2014, Thanks
Aviationinterviews.com
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Old 04-03-2015 | 02:32 PM
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It wasn't like a drill sergeant yelling in your face that he or she was going to break you. Not at all. It was more along the line that the explanation given as to why so much was crammed into each sim session was that we're going to find out if we can load you up to your breaking point.

The Kobayashi Maru reference is funny because one day my sim partner (he passed, too) and I walked in for the brief and it was written on the white board.

I agree if you prepare and can plan and execute your way out of the scenarios, it all works out. But if you can't roll with it, it might not.

I'm only commenting about it at all because of all the "green on green" comments earlier in the thread. No one is getting a pass.
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Old 04-03-2015 | 04:56 PM
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Do you quick upgraders get some sweet de-ice flips cards? I heard thats the key.
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