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Old 04-09-2015, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259 View Post
Of course I honestly still feel this way, why wouldn't I? I can assure you most all envoy pilots, current and former, feel this way too.

Nothing changes the fact that they voted for a concessionary contract when they said they wouldn't, thereby putting a halt to any sort of leverage and momentum the regional pilots had going forward. So yes, they made their bed and now I can only hope that they have to sleep in it a lot longer then planned.
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Old 04-09-2015, 07:34 AM
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If you and I are in class together at say United in the future are you not going to talk to me? If so, that's pretty pathetic.
I've thought about this, particularly in the likely chance it happens at AA. Sure I'll talk to you, but I'm not going to be your best friend by any means. What's pathetic is how little others think of your pilot group.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be joining a company that has earned this little respect throughout the industry. When I got hired, I could've gone to GoJet for the quick upgrade but chose not to out of respect for myself and I do not regret it one bit. You're not called "brown streak" for nothing.

And no, I don't blame others for my problems. I do blame PSA pilots for the current state of the regional industry.
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Old 04-09-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259 View Post
I've thought about this, particularly in the likely chance it happens at AA. Sure I'll talk to you, but I'm not going to be your best friend by any means. What's pathetic is how little others think of your pilot group.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be joining a company that has earned this little respect throughout the industry. When I got hired, I could've gone to GoJet for the quick upgrade but chose not to out of respect for myself and I do not regret it one bit. You're not called "brown streak" for nothing.

And no, I don't blame others for my problems. I do blame PSA pilots for the current state of the regional industry.
Whatever you say muchacho, bitter and angry is no way to live your life but to each their own.
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Old 04-09-2015, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports View Post
Whatever you say muchacho, bitter and angry is no way to live your life but to each their own.
Great defense muchacho. You PSA guys/girls seem to think that any sort of initial bitterness at your actions would fade over time, which I can't understand why.
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Old 04-09-2015, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259 View Post
I've thought about this, particularly in the likely chance it happens at AA. Sure I'll talk to you, but I'm not going to be your best friend by any means. What's pathetic is how little others think of your pilot group.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be joining a company that has earned this little respect throughout the industry. When I got hired, I could've gone to GoJet for the quick upgrade but chose not to out of respect for myself and I do not regret it one bit. You're not called "brown streak" for nothing.

And no, I don't blame others for my problems. I do blame PSA pilots for the current state of the regional industry.
Well, also, unfortunately not everybody thinks like you and wants to ride it out. I know of plenty of people here that came from Express Jet, Endeavor and even Envoy (say it isn't so). One day all of us, if not a complete grump and have a good head on their shoulders with a decent record will end up where they want to. There is not a defined course to get where you want to get like so many guys out there think.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports View Post
Well, also, unfortunately not everybody thinks like you and wants to ride it out. I know of plenty of people here that came from Express Jet, Endeavor and even Envoy (say it isn't so). One day all of us, if not a complete grump and have a good head on their shoulders with a decent record will end up where they want to. There is not a defined course to get where you want to get like so many guys out there think.
Ah yes, the regional churn. Well I know that many of those from envoy who went to PSA voted no here and then bailed to you guys. So that goes to show the character of that individual. Real winners for sure.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:02 AM
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What's pathetic is how little others think of your pilot group.
This isn't entirely true. It's understandable that a lot of Envoy pilots do but most other pilots don't care, especially those at mainline.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:07 AM
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This isn't entirely true. It's understandable that a lot of Envoy pilots do but most other pilots don't care, especially those at mainline.
Ha! Keep telling yourself that. Just by you saying it's understandable tells me that you are aware that what PSA pilots did was self-centered and wrong.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:10 AM
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This isn't entirely true. It's understandable that a lot of Envoy pilots do but most other pilots don't care, especially those at mainline.
Agreed, most guys at mainline carriers don't even know who PSA, Envoy, Mesa, Endeavor and others are and don't need to. One day it will be nice to not have to deal with all the regional politics, finger pointing and name calling.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259 View Post
Ha! Keep telling yourself that. Just by you saying it's understandable tells me that you are aware that what PSA pilots did was self-centered and wrong.
No, I simply see the story from both sides. You should try it.
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