UAL and Jumpseats
10-15-2019, 09:28 AM
#341
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Originally Posted by Bravix
Hell, if they even just put vacation passes below us on own metal, I'd be down with this new program. Giving us some would be even better.
10-15-2019, 09:42 AM
#342
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Originally Posted by watcher444
It’s not “your” metal. It’s U’s metal. You are a sub-contractor.
The metal is literally owned by SkyWest.
10-15-2019, 09:48 AM
#343
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
SAPA representative: "It looks like this captain let a UA pilot ride in the jumpseat."
*takes off SAPA badge, puts on SGU hat*
"I guess I'd better let the chief pilot know immediately."
Seriously, guys. The FAA isn't going to violate you. The company might fire you as an example, though.
On the plus side, that'd probably be a really easy way to find yourself on the short list to United.
*takes off SAPA badge, puts on SGU hat*
"I guess I'd better let the chief pilot know immediately."
Seriously, guys. The FAA isn't going to violate you. The company might fire you as an example, though.
On the plus side, that'd probably be a really easy way to find yourself on the short list to United.
10-15-2019, 09:55 AM
#344
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Originally Posted by EMBskillz
With AA being denied JS by RAH, UAL being denied by all their regional feeders and AWAC being denied by SKY, isn’t this more of a JS world war?
10-15-2019, 09:58 AM
#345
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Originally Posted by Bravix
Come back to me when United owns the plane The metal is literally owned by SkyWest.
The metal is literally owned by SkyWest.I’m not going to change your mind so I’m not going to argue the point.
A sub-contractor should never have priority over an employee on a leased asset. Ever.
And yes, my opinion was the same when I was working as the sub-contractor.
10-15-2019, 10:07 AM
#346
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Originally Posted by watcher444
IF it’s operating a U flight number, U is paying for the asset. That makes it theirs.
I’m not going to change your mind so I’m not going to argue the point.
A sub-contractor should never have priority over an employee on a leased asset. Ever.
And yes, my opinion was the same when I was working as the sub-contractor.
I’m not going to change your mind so I’m not going to argue the point.
A sub-contractor should never have priority over an employee on a leased asset. Ever.
And yes, my opinion was the same when I was working as the sub-contractor.
If you don't think express should ever have priority over mainline, then you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but make that your argument then. No need for the false pretense, right?"I think that contracted airlines should be below mainline in priority." Simple argument that gets to the heart of the matter. I disagree with it, but I'm not going to spend time arguing it. But if things start getting brought up that aren't accurate or are misleading, then I have compulsive need to
10-15-2019, 10:11 AM
#347
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Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis
I believe that's correct, for the most part. Although "Approved United Personnel" would have priority over everyone except the FAA. Here's a visual from the 9E forum if it's easier. Link
1) Must ride: Not to be used for regular commuting pilots that call scheduling after getting bumped of the jumpseat?
2/3) Own metal.
4/5) Is this all UA express, or just exclusive?
6/7) Me (and depending on the answer for #4, Go-jet and SKW I guess)
8/9/10) who cares...
10-15-2019, 10:15 AM
#348
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Originally Posted by Bravix
I mean, okay, but United isn't leasing the aircraft either. They pay for the seats and flight completion though, that much is true. Just trying to clear up any misinformation If you don't think express should ever have priority over mainline, then you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but make that your argument then. No need for the false pretense, right?
"I think that contracted airlines should be below mainline in priority." Simple argument that gets to the heart of the matter. I disagree with it, but I'm not going to spend time arguing it. But if things start getting brought up that aren't accurate or are misleading, then I have compulsive need to
If you don't think express should ever have priority over mainline, then you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but make that your argument then. No need for the false pretense, right?"I think that contracted airlines should be below mainline in priority." Simple argument that gets to the heart of the matter. I disagree with it, but I'm not going to spend time arguing it. But if things start getting brought up that aren't accurate or are misleading, then I have compulsive need to
10-15-2019, 10:16 AM
#349
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
So just to clarify for myself (innocent bystander, just curious), please correct me where I am wrong:
1) Must ride: Not to be used for regular commuting pilots that call scheduling after getting bumped of the jumpseat.
2/3) Own metal.
4/5) Is this all UA express, or just exclusive?
6/7) Me (and depending on the answer for #4, Go-jet and SKW I guess)
8/9/10) who cares...
1) Must ride: Not to be used for regular commuting pilots that call scheduling after getting bumped of the jumpseat.
2/3) Own metal.
4/5) Is this all UA express, or just exclusive?
6/7) Me (and depending on the answer for #4, Go-jet and SKW I guess)
8/9/10) who cares...
For now, we are at OAL. The chart for flying on Express-Exclusive carriers and mainline is different than this one.
10-15-2019, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by watcher444
if the flight has a U flight number it’s a de-facto lease. Nothing to argue.
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