Originally Posted by Gone Flying

3 changes i see
1) United has the power to put must ride people in the js
2) i get a lower priority on UA flights than before
3) UA gets higher priority on us than before

1 is an absolute non starter unless they are willing to provide the displaced pilot a seat in the back ( lets say they use this for an audit or something)
2 is not right either. my company has 179 planes flying for UAX and has continuously been operating as united express since the 90s, i can be bumped by a dispacher for air Wisconsin, an airline that has 60-70 planes and just started flying for UA a few years ago( for the 2nd time).
3) I have no problem with and honestly suprised it worked this way when I got hired here. on UAX flights it should be
1)Own metal
2)UAL
3)UAX
4)OAL
with that said I would also like to see UA have a cutoff time of 15 mins prior to D0 like DL (since so many talk about industry standard) so i cannot be pulled of the jumpseat at D-3 (by a pilot with a pos space on the next flight no less)

EDIT: it looks like UA is not even asking for elevated priority on OO or RAH JS which I would think to be the most reasonable request of them all. it will be only UAX exclusive carriers that will have this

Originally Posted by 1257

There is supposed to be a website up and running tonight called
deniedjumpseat.com that will track all denials.

Originally Posted by ebl14

I see where you are coming from with #1. But I have to ask, is this a hill worth dying on? #2 is just a wish, good luck telling United that you deserve anything on their on aircraft after these shenanigans. #3 Why do you care, you still go first.

So, is this a hill worth dying on?

Originally Posted by ebl14

Exactly right, and back on point. There will only be one group hurt in this war. Just wait until their non-rev bennies are on the chopping block and see how fast their lines are broken.

This is the high point for SAPA and the Skywest pilots, it’s all downhill from here on out.

Originally Posted by BOLO170

Oh I’m so sure you’re right, oh I wonder if we have any history with this issue. Maybe third times a charm, but I suspect this ends much worse for United ALPA. When you start websites to track names, well that makes it pretty personal. Of course most of us expected this lack of professionalism, I mean they did try to force a pilot group to sign a JS agreement through strong arming them.

Originally Posted by uaav8r

It is VERY “personal” BOLO...
And OO’s “unprofessional” move to deny United pilots jumpseats on United Express flights, preventing us from getting to our bases to operate United flights and back home to our families is unconscionable...
And that is why we never want to share our United Airlines flight decks with any names on that list.

Originally Posted by CRJJ

But people like you preventing other pilots, that have nothing to do with SAPA decision, that's cool and super professional, isn't it?. Because we don't have families to take care of.

Originally Posted by uaav8r

We are looking forward to the list...
ALPA loves lists