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Old 10-15-2015, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Terantious View Post
You make as much as a LCC FO? Maybe first year LCC pay. Might beat even second year depending how long you've been a captain at SkyWest, but I'm pretty sure third year at an LCC (except Frontier) has you beat.
Pay isn't everything. A 10 year Skywest captain may make $11/hour less than a 3 year JetBlue FO but the 10 year Skywest captain probably has more days off per month and gets weekends and holidays off in most bases. Is $11/hour really worth giving that seniority up especially for people with families?

Now when you're talking about a Legacy like Delta or United where 3rd year FO pay is significantly higher, and they get a 15% 401k contribution then it starts to become more worth it to take the quality of life hit for the pay raise.

To each his own. I see both sides of the argument. People who are single or have no kids and have the ability to move maybe would go to a LCC to chase the pay. Regional captains with young kids who can't move are probably waiting for a Legacy to call.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Waldoman View Post
Can anyone say the date of hire of the most junior E175 FO in DEN? My goal is to be based in DEN as soon as possible, so would I be better served by asking for the CRJ?

Where is CRJ training currently being conducted?
The most junior FO in Denver is on the 175 and has a pilot seniority of about 5/2015. ERJ training is in Denver and CRJ SLC. Sim location varies.

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Old 10-15-2015, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Terantious View Post
You make as much as a LCC FO? Maybe first year LCC pay. Might beat even second year depending how long you've been a captain at SkyWest, but I'm pretty sure third year at an LCC (except Frontier) has you beat.
It really depends. As a mythical 10 year Captain at SkyWest and a LCA, it would take at least 5 years to beat my current pay at any LCC. Then, factor in that I tend to get weekends at least partially off and drive to work, I don't see myself leaving for a LCC.
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:15 PM
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The most junior FO in Denver is on the 175 and has a pilot seniority of about 5/2015.
That is a little surprising to me. So as things currently stand, would I be able to hold Denver sooner if I went with the 175?
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Waldoman View Post
That is a little surprising to me. So as things currently stand, would I be able to hold Denver sooner if I went with the 175?
The junior CRJ FO is about the same seniority as the ERJ so either one is about 5 months of seniority right now.
I wouldn't bet on a meteoric seniority climb in any base on the ERJ though, expect transitions ahead of you for a few years.

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Old 10-15-2015, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Waldoman View Post
That is a little surprising to me. So as things currently stand, would I be able to hold Denver sooner if I went with the 175?
Most junior on the E175 is a May 2015 hire as mentioned, same for the CRJ. However, there are a lot of CRJ FOs who have a bid for the E175 and will transition over when their seat locks expire, slowing the transfers out of ORD. Also, you will get a line right away in MSP on the CRJ, where as you will be on reserve for awhile on the E175 in ORD. Something to consider.
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:58 PM
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PA31 & zondaracer - thanks for the info!
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:09 PM
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Is first year pay $30/hr as listed in APC info? And, there is a sign on bonus of $7500? If so, only if exp in EMB or CRJ regional jets? Thks.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer View Post
I don't know, I never got a crash pad but my friends were saying that there's some law in Minnesota or something that requires a minimum of 2 month lease, and the crash pads they found were requiring a two month commitment.
Never heard of a crash pad having a minimum stay or making you sign a lease. That law is probably referring to whoever actually holds the lease on the property. In effect, you are just a guest (for a fee) of that leaseholder.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
Never heard of a crash pad having a minimum stay or making you sign a lease. That law is probably referring to whoever actually holds the lease on the property. In effect, you are just a guest (for a fee) of that leaseholder.
That's what I would think too but the guy who has a large portion of the crashpads in MSP is asking for a two month commitment.
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