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Old 11-05-2015 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
you have read now what clickclickboom is saying. granted it wasnt SJS syndrome that made me take this airplane ( his shortsightedness ) but he may have a point that yeah this thing will go super senior and yeah perpetual reserve. pfff why are we even hiring new FO's on it then?

ill also say that trying to avoid rsv is not belittling others that where on rsv for many years.. I think this forum is somehow trying to make that correlation but thats false. the reality is if the regional s are looking for pilots there shouldn't be any rsv or certainly not down the rabbit hole goes my seniority forever as click click is saying. Im thinking that other regionals wont have this massive influx of the more senior pilot group coming over and for instance republic that has now sorted its contract at 40$ an hour plus a 7500 $ may attract a new group hence no rsv on that side.

seems logical to me
We need CE back so we can get some hiring standards in place again. I used to feel like SKYW mostly avoided the entitled SJS crowd. Now they're hiring them left and right.

It's ridiculous that you feel entitled to getting off reserve in 3 months. Most people at Skywest sat 3 years of reserve while Republic and Envoy were furloughing pilots in 2009. I know where I'd rather be next time the economy tanks.

Please go to Republic. You sound annoying as heck to fly with.
Old 11-05-2015 | 06:11 AM
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Instead of just focusing on a negative that most likely won't effect you try and look at the positive. Your first airline was SkyWest and on the 175 where you've held a line within a few months..... I wish I had the luck you did. Most people on here started with significantly less pay and on way worse airframes some where at really bad regionals others spent years on reserve.... You've had it pretty good and if you think an extra $10-$12k is worth it at RAH by all means go but the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Old 11-05-2015 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
you have read now what clickclickboom is saying. granted it wasnt SJS syndrome that made me take this airplane ( his shortsightedness ) but he may have a point that yeah this thing will go super senior and yeah perpetual reserve. pfff why are we even hiring new FO's on it then?

ill also say that trying to avoid rsv is not belittling others that where on rsv for many years.. I think this forum is somehow trying to make that correlation but thats false. the reality is if the regional s are looking for pilots there shouldn't be any rsv or certainly not down the rabbit hole goes my seniority forever as click click is saying. Im thinking that other regionals wont have this massive influx of the more senior pilot group coming over and for instance republic that has now sorted its contract at 40$ an hour plus a 7500 $ may attract a new group hence no rsv on that side.

seems logical to me
First of all, you will not see a ton of FOs come over to the ERJ. The transition incurs a seat lock and most of the senior FOs will not postpone their chance at upgrade. Second, most guys transitioning will do so into a base other than ORD. You will remain a line holder there. Third, having reserves is a good thing for everyone. You'll understand when you try and drop a trip. To think that no reserves is a good thing is just complete ignorance.

If you really believe that RAH would be a good move for you, by all means make the jump. It appears you have not educated yourself about the ins and outs of the industry. I suggest you do so.
Old 11-05-2015 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
We need CE back so we can get some hiring standards in place again. I used to feel like SKYW mostly avoided the entitled SJS crowd. Now they're hiring them left and right.

It's ridiculous that you feel entitled to getting off reserve in 3 months. Most people at Skywest sat 3 years of reserve while Republic and Envoy were furloughing pilots in 2009. I know where I'd rather be next time the economy tanks.

Please go to Republic. You sound annoying as heck to fly with.
what exactly is entitled about wanting to figure out how this airplane / base is trending and if other options would be the best bet? is it my fault anyone in history sat rsv for many years .. nope. would it be in my best intentions to figure out and potentially avoid that scenario yes.

anyways question answered.
Old 11-05-2015 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
well see but if hoards of senior folks jump over to ORD ERJ ill be kicking myself for not having made the early move elsewhere. just food for thought.
You are right I think. $40 bucks an hour ain't bad and you can beat the hiring wave.
Old 11-05-2015 | 06:34 AM
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I think CA on the ERJ will go senior with the arrival of the Delta 175's, but if an FO transitions it's a year seat lock. If senior FO is getting close to an upgrade it doesn't make sense to transition. I think you'll have a few FO's transition but I don't think it will be a drastic amount.
Old 11-05-2015 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
you have read now what clickclickboom is saying. granted it wasnt SJS syndrome that made me take this airplane ( his shortsightedness ) but he may have a point that yeah this thing will go super senior and yeah perpetual reserve. pfff why are we even hiring new FO's on it then?

ill also say that trying to avoid rsv is not belittling others that where on rsv for many years.. I think this forum is somehow trying to make that correlation but thats false. the reality is if the regional s are looking for pilots there shouldn't be any rsv or certainly not down the rabbit hole goes my seniority forever as click click is saying. Im thinking that other regionals wont have this massive influx of the more senior pilot group coming over and for instance republic that has now sorted its contract at 40$ an hour plus a 7500 $ may attract a new group hence no rsv on that side.

seems logical to me

I seriously doubt you're going to get pushed back to reserve. Not many FO's are going to bid the 175 ahead of you. Some might, but I still think new hires will be put on the 175 for the foreseeable future. You don't want to work for BB. I almost jumped ship too, back in 2007 and I would have been furloughed a lot sooner than I actually was, had a done so.


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Old 11-05-2015 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
you have read now what clickclickboom is saying. granted it wasnt SJS syndrome that made me take this airplane ( his shortsightedness ) but he may have a point that yeah this thing will go super senior and yeah perpetual reserve. pfff why are we even hiring new FO's on it then?

ill also say that trying to avoid rsv is not belittling others that where on rsv for many years.. I think this forum is somehow trying to make that correlation but thats false. the reality is if the regional s are looking for pilots there shouldn't be any rsv or certainly not down the rabbit hole goes my seniority forever as click click is saying. Im thinking that other regionals wont have this massive influx of the more senior pilot group coming over and for instance republic that has now sorted its contract at 40$ an hour plus a 7500 $ may attract a new group hence no rsv on that side.

seems logical to me
I think you missed my comment about Republic refugees. They might pay $40/ hour, but the morale is low, the pilots do not trust their management (their union really doesn't have much pull: fly it, then grieve it- for you as the pilot too bad, so sad), and they only voted yes because they feel it's a sinking ship. So they may as well get as much money out of the company before it's sunk. Republic is potentially going to lose flying as they cannot complete for their mainline partners. So if you want to be a line holder over there go for it, but if you find yourself miserable, and then moving backwards towards reserve at Republic after they lose flying, just ask one of your friends from initial about their line at SkyWest.
People on here are trying to help you from making a decision you'll regret. But hey if you want a real opportunity Great Lakes is hiring direct entry captains, and PSA. I'm sure if you go to Lakes you'll hold a line their immediately, and if you're concerned about pay, there's lots of upward movement to Chief pilot etc that would exceed Republic pay.
Old 11-05-2015 | 07:47 AM
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Not sure why this turned into a Republic thing. But they have some mending to do before it gets better.. Q's going a way, E145's going away...
Old 11-05-2015 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Not sure why this turned into a Republic thing. But they have some mending to do before it gets better.. Q's going a way, E145's going away...
It's more of a, help someone make a sensible decision in this industry. But he may have to see it in hindsight. I've put in my two cents. To be more on topic of his conern, I am pretty sure if he sticks it out at SkyWest, he will be a line holder by March or around then when spring break travel picks up. ORD will stay JR for the 175, so unless this guy is looking to go out west, his seniority will improve over time. If he really wants to go out west and fly the 175, he could jump for Compass, to get their 10k signing bonus, and walk straight into a line out of training in LAX, or SEA. If he wants to stay in the midwest, he could hold MSP out of the gate or within a month.
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