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Old 12-19-2015 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
Thats exactly the point is that I was not on the CUSP nor was anyone else sub 95 or so as there were 97 lines in the bid. After # 81 only composites lines were awarded. 76 lines in fact though were all that was setup for holding actual lines.. So instead of them letting everyone who is past 76 bid for a rsv line they created the illusion that just like in previous months if you are well within the bidded lines you would hold one..

get my point

I understand how it can be misleading. However in the PBS page on SWOL if you check "Bid Information" it shows the targeted vs the guaranteed lines. If you fall within the last bit of seniority then it should be something to expect. But like someone said earlier, since you were assigned one trip it's like you've broken guarntee so now every thing you fly on your reserve day over 4:12 is on top.
Old 12-19-2015 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PSpuza
I understand how it can be misleading. However in the PBS page on SWOL if you check "Bid Information" it shows the targeted vs the guaranteed lines. If you fall within the last bit of seniority then it should be something to expect. But like someone said earlier, since you were assigned one trip it's like you've broken guarntee so now every thing you fly on your reserve day over 4:12 is on top.
That's great. The qualm he has is that now his seniority means nothing in choosing days off. They will hand pick where his reserve days will go and his bid means nothing. Whereas he could've easily held the days off he wanted with a reserve line if he bid that line.

See the issue?
Old 12-19-2015 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
That's great. The qualm he has is that now his seniority means nothing in choosing days off. They will hand pick where his reserve days will go and his bid means nothing. Whereas he could've easily held the days off he wanted with a reserve line if he bid that line.

See the issue?
I have called and requested the days off I wanted several times with composite lines. They are usually super accommodating unless you're trying to get a major holiday off. Composite lines really are awesome. Best credit/time worked ratio I have ever gotten. If you are in the group between guaranteed and target line holders and don't want a composite line, bid reserve. It's pretty simple.
Old 12-19-2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
I have called and requested the days off I wanted several times with composite lines. They are usually super accommodating unless you're trying to get a major holiday off. Composite lines really are awesome. Best credit/time worked ratio I have ever gotten. If you are in the group between guaranteed and target line holders and don't want a composite line, bid reserve. It's pretty simple.
Great in a well staffed base. A base with 5 reserve lines? Yeah your beautiful composite line is working weekends.
Old 12-19-2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Great in a well staffed base. A base with 5 reserve lines? Yeah your beautiful composite line is working weekends.
Have you ever called? Like I said, if you don't want a composite, bid reserve.
Old 12-19-2015 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Have you ever called? Like I said, if you don't want a composite, bid reserve.
I'm not even close to being a reserve. But I've been a reserve and a composite at skw. Both have their pluses and minuses. But when you bid a reserve line, seniority matters for days off. Composite? Not so much.

I'm not exactly a new kid on the block
Old 12-19-2015 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
I'm not even close to being a reserve. But I've been a reserve and a composite at skw. Both have their pluses and minuses. But when you bid a reserve line, seniority matters for days off. Composite? Not so much.

I'm not exactly a new kid on the block
I'm not arguing whether you are new or not. I just think it's a pretty simple fix if you don't like the way composite lines work. I have always had great luck manipulating days off with composite lines. I have gotten 90 to 100 hours of credit working 5 or 6 days. To each their own.
Old 12-19-2015 | 03:47 PM
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Interesting just checked that bid information table thanks for the tip. Nice to know that that was there but I didnt. heh Why or how would I?
Still makes absolutely no sense to even post that they have 97 lines when they dont. They have 80 full stop. Going off of their own description on SWOL if you fall within the number of lines you hold a line period. Not true

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Old 12-19-2015 | 04:10 PM
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You're confusing guaranteed LH with targeted LH.
Old 12-19-2015 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
I have called and requested the days off I wanted several times with composite lines. They are usually super accommodating unless you're trying to get a major holiday off. Composite lines really are awesome. Best credit/time worked ratio I have ever gotten. If you are in the group between guaranteed and target line holders and don't want a composite line, bid reserve. It's pretty simple.
This. They're usually pretty accommodating, especially in a larger base.

Targeted lineholders only get a line if all the folks senior to them don't scoop up a bunch of credit...if that happens, targeted lineholders come up short with a composite line (unless they bid reserve). Maybe everybody has Christmas bills they need to pay off...
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