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04-21-2014 | 06:01 PM
#4702
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2009
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From: Another RJ FO
The breakdown doesn't matter because even over 2 years seniority in ORD I never fly the 700. I've flown less than 40 hours total in the 700 and most of those hours I picked up on open time. They weren't awarded. I've never once flown the 900. You won't see the 700/900 for a long time if you're new in ORD.
04-21-2014 | 06:11 PM
#4703
Respek
Joined: Jul 2010
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More a curiosity thing I can care less what plane I'm in. They did schedule me OOE in the 900 so I'm assuming that they want people qual'd just in case.
04-21-2014 | 07:26 PM
#4704
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2010
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They will get you qualified in the 900s cause you will be a reserve first and Will get TDY all over creation to cover flying at domiciles that are not properly staffed.
04-21-2014 | 09:49 PM
#4707
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2013
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I'm always baffled when people say that. I'd suggest learning it even if you're still on reserve and it doesn't matter much. Start messing around with things now. This is your life you're bidding on. One mistake can cause you a whole month worth of hurt when you get close to the targeted lines. Also people senior will sometimes bid reserve. Even if you're way outside of targeted lineholders it's beneficial to try to bid a line. I've seen the most junior guy in base get a full line once because the base was understaffed and senior people bid all of the reserve lines.
The FA I was just flying with had no idea how to use PBS and ended up with a reserve line as a commuter even though she was within targeted line holders. People junior to her got lines. She was angry and asked me to look at her bid and it took me 2 seconds to figure out why she got reserve. Had she known even a slight bit about how to bid she would have had a full line with more days off and more pay.
The FA I was just flying with had no idea how to use PBS and ended up with a reserve line as a commuter even though she was within targeted line holders. People junior to her got lines. She was angry and asked me to look at her bid and it took me 2 seconds to figure out why she got reserve. Had she known even a slight bit about how to bid she would have had a full line with more days off and more pay.
04-22-2014 | 04:21 AM
#4708
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Joined: Sep 2008
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From: B767
Baffled at what? That me focusing on passing training was more important to me than learning how to bid? Like I said, now that I'm done with training and the fire hose is over, I've been asking captains questions and reading up on PBS. Yes it is my life I'm bidding on, but I had to earn that right first!
Anyway, now that you have time I would suggest bidding like you want a line, and even put in some pairing/line properties. Don't bother with specific pairings right now, that's not helpful to the learning process (you're already doing something similar with your reserve line bid anyway). In layer 6, put Avoid reserve. Put your desired Reserve lines in L7.
Here's the important part - when bids come out, even if you just get reserve again, call the PBS helpline and review your bid. Tell them that you are junior, but trying to learn PBS. Ask them to review your bid and offer suggestions. You want to know exactly what you're doing when senior enough to hold a line.
When I was pretty junior, I was awarded better lines than people senior to me all the time since I took the effort to learn PBS by studying the manual and calling the help line each month after my bid was awarded. I can't tell you how many times I've seen even our pilots bid with no clue what they're doing (the FAs are definitely the worst at it though.).
04-22-2014 | 07:51 AM
#4709
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2013
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He's just trying to help you...
Anyway, now that you have time I would suggest bidding like you want a line, and even put in some pairing/line properties. Don't bother with specific pairings right now, that's not helpful to the learning process (you're already doing something similar with your reserve line bid anyway). In layer 6, put Avoid reserve. Put your desired Reserve lines in L7.
Here's the important part - when bids come out, even if you just get reserve again, call the PBS helpline and review your bid. Tell them that you are junior, but trying to learn PBS. Ask them to review your bid and offer suggestions. You want to know exactly what you're doing when senior enough to hold a line.
When I was pretty junior, I was awarded better lines than people senior to me all the time since I took the effort to learn PBS by studying the manual and calling the help line each month after my bid was awarded. I can't tell you how many times I've seen even our pilots bid with no clue what they're doing (the FAs are definitely the worst at it though.).
Anyway, now that you have time I would suggest bidding like you want a line, and even put in some pairing/line properties. Don't bother with specific pairings right now, that's not helpful to the learning process (you're already doing something similar with your reserve line bid anyway). In layer 6, put Avoid reserve. Put your desired Reserve lines in L7.
Here's the important part - when bids come out, even if you just get reserve again, call the PBS helpline and review your bid. Tell them that you are junior, but trying to learn PBS. Ask them to review your bid and offer suggestions. You want to know exactly what you're doing when senior enough to hold a line.
When I was pretty junior, I was awarded better lines than people senior to me all the time since I took the effort to learn PBS by studying the manual and calling the help line each month after my bid was awarded. I can't tell you how many times I've seen even our pilots bid with no clue what they're doing (the FAs are definitely the worst at it though.).
04-22-2014 | 08:03 AM
#4710
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 39
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From: RJ FO
Anyway, now that you have time I would suggest bidding like you want a line, and even put in some pairing/line properties. Don't bother with specific pairings right now, that's not helpful to the learning process (you're already doing something similar with your reserve line bid anyway). In layer 6, put Avoid reserve. Put your desired Reserve lines in L7.
Here's the important part - when bids come out, even if you just get reserve again, call the PBS helpline and review your bid. Tell them that you are junior, but trying to learn PBS. Ask them to review your bid and offer suggestions. You want to know exactly what you're doing when senior enough to hold a line.
When I was pretty junior, I was awarded better lines than people senior to me all the time since I took the effort to learn PBS by studying the manual and calling the help line each month after my bid was awarded. I can't tell you how many times I've seen even our pilots bid with no clue what they're doing (the FAs are definitely the worst at it though.).
Ditto on calling the PBS helpline. I did it when I was a new hire and it cleared up a lot of questions. Those folks are really helpful and will take as much time as necessary to help you figure out the bidding system.
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