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Old 06-03-2013 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyG
Okay, let's go down that road. How can you be so sure?
Because we don't have any openings for CFIs working at IASCO, with a ERAU degree, A&P certificate, with hours near 1500tt, that did their flight training with their VA benefits at TSTC.

Just kidding, and maybe it's the way things come across over the internet, but if your attitude is perceived like I'm perceiving it now, you'll never make it past the interview.
Old 06-04-2013 | 12:04 AM
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JohnnyG, the Brasilia is an awesome airplane. I took it by choice and haven't regretted it one bit. You have your whole career to fly fancy jets. I've learned a lot and flown with lots of great people on this airplane as well as enjoyed some good QOL compared to some friends I have on the RJ.
Old 06-04-2013 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyG
Could it be because they aren't hiring?! Maybe?
Technically you are correct, we are not hiring because we have enough people in the pool to fill the EMB new hire class and the CRJ new hire class. Once the pool dries up, and the need still exists i am sure we will open the application process.

I am not sure the intent behind your posts, other then to stir the pot. But if you are actually considering a job at SkyWest then trust me you are not setting yourself up very well.

Even if you do get an interview, and are successful, your immaturity and lack of professionalism will show during your first year of probation and you will be terminated.

Take it for what it`s worth.
Old 06-04-2013 | 04:57 AM
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JohnnyG.

If I was in your shoes I would bid the BRO unless I could be based at home on the jet sooner. I have 1,000 in T-Props and about the same amount of time in a jet and I can tell you that the T-prop was much more fun to fly and better flying. On the BRO you will be going up and down the coast in CA and you won't be just doing 25 mile finals leading to an ILS. Flying a T-Prop is harder than flying a jet as the systems are more complex and it's older technology. Some guys that make an argument that I don't need to know older technology are incorrect because the jet will have similar systems but they will be automatic and you won't learn much about it, by starting in something like the BRO you will learn more about those systems and how they work giving you a solid foundation for the future.

To this day I remember flying my first leg on the CRJ, passing thru 10,000 I said to my self... this is going to be boring, and it was. The jet flying is boring but the jet flying QOL and pay is better than the T-prop. First year pay you will make about the same money in the prop per hr than the jet, I would highly recommend flying the prop for experience and transitioning to the jet your second year.
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You're too good to fly a Brasilia? Don't bother Johnny, you obviously have a lot to offer some other airline.
Old 06-04-2013 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AFOX1BRAVO
You're too good to fly a Brasilia? Don't bother Johnny, you obviously have a lot to offer some other airline.
He is just waiting for the announcement for E-175 classes.
Old 06-04-2013 | 10:07 AM
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You're getting 3 more RJs for Alaska to start flying in Novemeber. These planes have been flying in South Africa for the past 5 years. New routes for the AAG. Haven't announced the cities yet but Omaha will be one.
Old 06-04-2013 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah
Because we don't have any openings for CFIs working at IASCO, with a ERAU degree, A&P certificate, with hours near 1500tt, that did their flight training with their VA benefits at TSTC.

Just kidding, and maybe it's the way things come across over the internet, but if your attitude is perceived like I'm perceiving it now, you'll never make it past the interview.
Too bad that's only fractionally true and not enough to preclude me from a job anywhere because it won't match my resume. I don't work at IASCO, I'm not nearing 1,500 hours and good luck convincing them to eliminate everyone with an embry riddle degree and an A&P to try to screw me because of things said on the internet. I'm sure you have the power to get an airline to burn down the barn because you think there's a rat hiding in one hay bale.


Maybe I should go get a real degree though.


I don't think I'm too good to fly the bro, and it's a step up from where I am, but do most turboprop jobs not lead to flying RJs, when if you play your cards right you can end up there anyway? I'm not working at a flight school, and my QOL seems too high to wait years to get the timing just right so that I can bend over backwards to make nothing and continue to fly propellor driven aircraft. I'm 38 years old, and I'm over begging someone to fly a 'suck it up because it might possibly help your career' plane.

Kudos to all of you who will be rushing to fight 400 to 1 for bro positions when Skywest starts hiring. I'm old enough to not want to wait in line for 4 hours just for the 20% chance I'll get to ride the rollercoaster before the park closes.

It's a great job for a 24 year old with a good degree and the motivation to take a few hits and setbacks. Flying up and down the West Coast in a turboprop sounds like a blast. This is my favorite part of the world to fly in, and I'm thankful for it.

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Old 06-04-2013 | 10:27 AM
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JohnnyG.

If I was in your shoes I would bid the BRO unless I could be based at home on the jet sooner. I have 1,000 in T-Props and about the same amount of time in a jet and I can tell you that the T-prop was much more fun to fly and better flying. On the BRO you will be going up and down the coast in CA and you won't be just doing 25 mile finals leading to an ILS. Flying a T-Prop is harder than flying a jet as the systems are more complex and it's older technology. Some guys that make an argument that I don't need to know older technology are incorrect because the jet will have similar systems but they will be automatic and you won't learn much about it, by starting in something like the BRO you will learn more about those systems and how they work giving you a solid foundation for the future.

To this day I remember flying my first leg on the CRJ, passing thru 10,000 I said to my self... this is going to be boring, and it was. The jet flying is boring but the jet flying QOL and pay is better than the T-prop. First year pay you will make about the same money in the prop per hr than the jet, I would highly recommend flying the prop for experience and transitioning to the jet your second year.
As long as everyone is pointing out the career prospects of others, take a chance to read the above gentleman's response. It's articulate, weighted and professional, and offers advice without pontificating. Those who snap to judge one unhappy person are those that take the same approach to everything. This guy will probably outperform all of you.

On a lighter note, I sincerely hope you guys won't be storming into Cameille (or whoever)'s office to shred every application that has IASCO, A&P and ERAU credentials on it, because mine won't be in the stack. You'll just succeed in ruining some young kid's dreams.
Old 06-04-2013 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by allflight57
JohnnyG, the Brasilia is an awesome airplane. I took it by choice and haven't regretted it one bit. You have your whole career to fly fancy jets. I've learned a lot and flown with lots of great people on this airplane as well as enjoyed some good QOL compared to some friends I have on the RJ.
Another vote for the Brasilia here... I was fortunate enough to get an offer for class on either the Brasilia or CRJ. I requested first available, which turned out to be the Brasilia. Having previously flown King Airs, I was actually pretty stoked to be back in a t-prop again. I knew it could very well be the last time in my career to be in a prop, particularly an old school beast like the 120. I came to SkyWest with my ATP, a PIC jet type (and TPIC). I certainly didn't feel above flying it, and in fact a good portion of my new hire class were more experienced than me!

I spent just under a year on it, all in the west coast system. I had an absolute blast! Everything is a little more relaxed than the CRJ, and even the SOPs are (or at least were at that time) more lenient as far as when to be stabilized, etc.

I also made considerable more money that first year compared to what I would've seen on the CRJ. I spent only a few weeks on reserve before getting a line... So not only did I make more money, I had quite a bit more time off and control over my schedule.

A year later I went over to the CRJ, and went straight to a lineholder. As everybody has said, the CRJ flying is definitely not as enjoyable. But it does pay more and is a WAY easier schedule (particularly the 700/900 trips). It really is like a different airline on the CRJ.

Maybe in another year or two I'll be fortunate enough to upgrade to the Bro again, we'll see. I certainly wouldn't mind it, but I'm not sure I want to commute to FAT.
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