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Old 06-03-2013 | 09:32 AM
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why do you think there is such a lag to upgrade people when it appears to be such a black and white need present on the scheduler's side?
Old 06-03-2013 | 09:43 AM
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why do you think there is such a lag to upgrade people when it appears to be such a black and white need present on the scheduler's side?
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Old 06-03-2013 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BHopper88
One of our pilots discovered a lot of us airways 900 flying out east that is more than 4 900s could possible do starting in August.

Flying to cities include:
ABE, AVL, AUS, BHM, BUF, CHS, CVG, CLE, DTW, GSO, MDT, BDL, IND, JAX, SDF, MEM, MYR, BNA, ORF, OMA, SAT, SAV, STL, IAD, and ILM.

Interesting to say at least.
Can you be more specific, "discovered"? Are you saying that Mesa is loosing this flying? Source? They just got awarded 9 new 900's a few months ago
Old 06-03-2013 | 10:20 AM
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Well, it has to be far cheaper for the company to have more, new Captains than to pay fewer captains more money and more risk of penalty pay for longer than normal work routines due to a shortage, no?
Old 06-03-2013 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by grahamlax
Can you be more specific, "discovered"? Are you saying that Mesa is loosing this flying? Source? They just got awarded 9 new 900's a few months ago
It looks like it could just be a glitch on the US Airways website, but if you search for flights between those outstations and CLT after August 1 or so, some of them say operated by SkyWest. So I'm not totally buying it yet, but it could help explain why we randomly starting hiring again.
Old 06-03-2013 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cactipilot
Well, it has to be far cheaper for the company to have more, new Captains than to pay fewer captains more money and more risk of penalty pay for longer than normal work routines due to a shortage, no?
All employees get paid a minimum guarantee, optional health insurance, retirement matching, profit sharing (after first year), etc. I think just adding more bodies to the payroll makes it more expensive than to just pay fewer people a little more money to cover the same amount of work. Their benefits, health insurance, etc. remains the same. The only extra cost is their extra pay so I dunno. In my head, it seems as though paying fewer people a little more money to cover extra work would be cheaper than properly staffing, even if they are all first year captains.

"Short staffed is the new normal staffed."
Old 06-03-2013 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly Boy Knight
All employees get paid a minimum guarantee, optional health insurance, retirement matching, profit sharing (after first year), etc. I think just adding more bodies to the payroll makes it more expensive than to just pay fewer people a little more money to cover the same amount of work. Their benefits, health insurance, etc. remains the same. The only extra cost is their extra pay so I dunno. In my head, it seems as though paying fewer people a little more money to cover extra work would be cheaper than properly staffing, even if they are all first year captains.
Up to a point. Volunteers to cover extra work are plentiful when lines are thin, but if everyone is loaded up to begin with then the volunteers start to dry up (no involuntary junior man at SKW). And of course unlike most industries, the FARs legally cap how much we can work.

I suspect SKW envisions a real shortage of ATP's at the regional entry if/when the majors start retiring people...they may be willing to pay folks to sit around now (they are certainly doing that in my base) rather than lose flying due to lack of staff later.
Old 06-03-2013 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Ummm what? We have a confirmed class of 20 crj and 8 emb in July.. Move along.
Oh, I'm not even arguing with you. I don't care what rumors you've heard, or even that you work there.

Skywest is not hiring and has no recruiting planned at all. If you want to go to their webpage you can any time.
Old 06-03-2013 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyG
Oh, I'm not even arguing with you. I don't care what rumors you've heard, or even that you work there.

Skywest is not hiring and has no recruiting planned at all. If you want to go to their webpage you can any time.
Why would you believe that the webpage is a more reliable source than an OO pilot?
Old 06-03-2013 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyG
Skywest is not hiring and has no recruiting planned at all. If you want to go to their webpage you can any time.
So what you're saying is that you know something to be true based on something you saw on the Internet.

And I realize that by making this point it calls into question everything on this site, too, but that's kinda my point: none of us really know anything.
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