Low Flyin

Not to mention that the feds are going to crawling all over the training dept and sims during the initial phase

yesyou

Quote: "Only one's I've ever heard of getting an interview here at SkyWest below the posted minimums were current employees in other positions - ramp, dispatch, cs...They still had to get to the minimums before they could go to class."

I was interviewed with a few hours short on multi time (I didn't work for them as a ramper either).

However, I did have to wait till minimums were met before they scheduled a class for me.

SongMan

How short were you? Did you interview and get the job?

Electra

Wow, are ya'll getting way ahead of yourselves on this! First of all, we don't even know what the company's opening offer is on pay since meetings haven't even begun yet. Let's worry about that when we actually have something to whine about, shall we? (I know, I know, what else would we do here, right?) Second, UAL hasn't even informed SkyWest where they'd like the 175 based out of. Reliable intel says we'll know sometime next week or the week after. If by some miracle it ends up being on the Left Coast I can assure you it will not go "junior", whatever you think that means. Right now it takes just about 7 years senority to hold an RJ Captain spot, period. If IAH or ORD is in the mix then it will be more junior. If we open IAD, they'll have to bribe anyone who didn't get hired after 2007 and who doesn't already think they were entitled to a fourth stripe 5 years ago. If they put the 175 anywhere there is a current RJ domicile, and shrink the RJ domicile accordingly, it will not be so much an issue of having fewer trips to swap out for but more about maintaining your ability to be based where you are currently. How is that for a QOL consideration?

What kind of "high fence" do you guys think will emerge? I expect the company will do what it has always done; if you have had a training event (newhire, upgrade or transition) in the last 12 months, you will be seat-locked and ineligible for a training award. So the only question will be for those now eligible to transition 120 to CRJ or coming on as newhires, whether they'll risk waiting for a 175 class instead, which, by the way, I wouldn't. This isn't the first go-round for SkyWest adding a new fleet type, we'll use our people, probably get an AQP program just like we have for our other types, and do things the right way. I wouldn't stress too much about the FAA looking over our shoulders.

JustAMushroom

You're right in some respects. If the move one type entirely out of a base and move the EJets in, then the thing will go as senior as the base is. Or if the lock is 12 months then it could go a little senior. Guys could try it out and if there's a "bait n switch" meaning good trips devolve into low credit lots of days, guys could transition out, it may go senior. Anyone looking to move to a Legacy tho (hired 2000 to 2005) in my opinion, would be crazy to change equipment for a few dollars with seat locks over 12 mo.

Also, I still stand by my prediction about soft time somehow implemented into the E.

yesyou

Quote: "How short were you? Did you interview and get the job?"

I was a little less than 15 hours from their minimums at the time.

I got the job.

What

How does the seat lock affect someone moving to a major?

JustAMushroom

Seat lock times in the 12 month range would allow senior guys to get a new type, and if the schedules erode, move back to prior equipment without loosing too much. (Exactly what SkyWest would fear).

But if the lock were longer, you could spend your final months/years and SkyWest locked into a crap schedule, unable to drop/pu or get time/days off as easily as you're used too.

There's also the simple risk any training event inherently is.
Presumably if you're focused on going to a Legacy you'd have plenty of time logged. Also, it assumes you're qualified in the other areas needed to be competitive. One of these areas is a clean record. The argument would be -why stick your neck out there for very little reward. Focus on networking and getting ready for an interview.

I anticipate the counter argument, that is, it would show recent training and therefore show you're ready for a new hire school. My argument is it wouldn't be worth it and most would agree and therefore the E will go jr.

rcfd13

I think you're over analyzing it. People are going to bid the new jet if it's in their base and they think it will lead to a good pay raise. I think that's going to be the deciding factor for everyone.

Someone junior sitting reserve might make the decision to be junior sitting reserve on a higher pay scale. Someone not quite senior enough to hold good 900 trips might bid it to get the pay raise. I don't think people will put much more thought into it other than "Can I do the same thing I'm doing now but make more money?"

I do agree that someone who thinks they have a realistic shot at a major within the next year after the jet becomes available probably wouldn't want to risk multiple training events going through transition training.

jws3443

What are the junior bases on the bro these days? Also which are the best of the bases to work out of?