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10-28-2014, 07:57 AM
#7301
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Joined APC: Jan 2012
Posts: 208
Nevets, how are you able to post on here so much? Shouldn't you get back to work in the ALPA R&D labs, inventing and implementing the next TCAS or weather radar, or whatever ALPA's next safety innovation is going to be?
10-28-2014, 08:13 AM
#7302
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
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Originally Posted by fastback
Nevets, how are you able to post on here so much? Shouldn't you get back to work in the ALPA R&D labs, inventing and implementing the next TCAS or weather radar, or whatever ALPA's next safety innovation is going to be?
It's not the innovation ALPA invents. Those are the good people at various avionics companies. But the airlines ALWAYS cry poor. ALPA just helps it become a mandate to install them. This happened for weather radar and TCAS. It took a lot of dues to pay for the push to get these things mandated. Almost all safety systems have ALPA pushing them through or even helping to make it better by being included in the development in order to make it more pilot ergonomic. Sit time over, gotta go catch my DH now.
10-28-2014, 08:14 AM
#7303
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Shorts CA
Posts: 80
Originally Posted by Saabs
Look at his screen name he's already had all of those things like double occupancy. He will do just fine.
I hope so!
10-28-2014, 08:40 AM
#7304
Holding
Joined APC: Jan 2012
Posts: 208
Originally Posted by Nevets
It's not the innovation ALPA invents.
If ALPA would model itself off of AOPA, as a PAC that also offered services like legal and aeromedical, I'd be all about it, and I'd make a PAC donation every year. But there's more money [yes even for a nonprofit] in conscripting dues from every pilot on every property they can represent.
10-28-2014, 08:43 AM
#7305
MK Ultra Candidate
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by CJC1024
I hope so!
10-28-2014, 08:54 AM
#7306
Gets Summer Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: AA
Posts: 667
Originally Posted by cencal83406
You're welcome for all the benefits you enjoy. Thank ALPA. Oh and thank a major airline pilot for the flying you get to do. We're working on taking it back, so enjoy it while it lasts.
Sad but true.
10-28-2014, 09:12 AM
#7307
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Joined APC: Jan 2012
Posts: 208
Originally Posted by cencal83406
You're welcome for all the benefits you enjoy. Thank ALPA. Oh and thank a major airline pilot for the flying you get to do. We're working on taking it back, so enjoy it while it lasts.
10-28-2014, 09:33 AM
#7308
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Another RJ FO
Posts: 1,272
Originally Posted by cencal83406
You're welcome for all the benefits you enjoy. Thank ALPA. Oh and thank a major airline pilot for the flying you get to do. We're working on taking it back, so enjoy it while it lasts.
Scope is still being relaxed every contract though so you must not be working too hard at taking it back. Regionals almost all fly E175s now and we do hub to hub ORD-DEN and ORD-DCA on RJs.
10-28-2014, 09:40 AM
#7309
Gets Summer Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: AA
Posts: 667
The major vs. regional pilot dichotomy is not the one we should be looking at. Rather, there are those of us who get it vs. those of us who don't. There are major pilots who will sell a little scope every time for a few dollars more, and there are regional "lifers" who can't wait to get their hands on bigger planes.
Pointing fingers at entire pilot groups doesn't get anybody anywhere.
Pointing fingers at entire pilot groups doesn't get anybody anywhere.
10-28-2014, 09:51 AM
#7310
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Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by fastback
Then damnit quit trying to take the credit for the safety innovations. The safety lobbying effort is funded by individuals' donations anyways, not out of general dues.
If ALPA would model itself off of AOPA, as a PAC that also offered services like legal and aeromedical, I'd be all about it, and I'd make a PAC donation every year. But there's more money [yes even for a nonprofit] in conscripting dues from every pilot on every property they can represent.
If ALPA would model itself off of AOPA, as a PAC that also offered services like legal and aeromedical, I'd be all about it, and I'd make a PAC donation every year. But there's more money [yes even for a nonprofit] in conscripting dues from every pilot on every property they can represent.
If I made it sound like ALPA invented TCAS and weather radar, then I apologize. Although ALPA has won the collier trophy a couple of times for their help in innovation. And I'm not just talking about lobbying. I'm also talking about ALPA's work with agencies such as the FAA, NTSB, DOT, FBI, their work on all the various ARCs and industry committees, etc to make sure that the professional pilot point of view is taken into consideration. Or making sure some things never see the light of day.
As for AOPA, pilot unions typically offer the same services. They offer aeromedical and legal services. I had an ALPA attorney help me with an FMLA issue, for example. The aeromedical benefits is one of the best things, by the way. They work with the fed meds in okc to make sure you get back flying ASAP or keep your medical to begin with. Unfortunately, you can't donate to the ALPA PAC without being a member. Something about some federal law. At the regionals, each MEC gets back more in dues than their pilots pay. The mainline pilot groups subsidize the services that are provided by ALPA at the regionals.
Originally Posted by FaceBiter
He should get back to work on airline apps, ALPA or no ALPA the writing is already on the wall at ExpressJet.
Always updating, thanks. But I also have a back up plan for when this place craters, if I'm still here when it finally happens.
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