Skywest
10-28-2014, 06:29 AM
#7291
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,201
Originally Posted by Electra
Actually, I DO believe that if we weren't carrying the XJT financial deadweight that it would be easier for us, and I AM frustrated that my management didn't bother to look closely enough at the operation before investing so much of our capital in it.
Airlines come and go, it is the nature of the industry. I don't hold a grudge against XJT pilots in general, in fact they are welcome in my jumpseat anytime just like everyone else. What does anger me are the few of you that like to come on here under the veil of anonymity and repeatedly dump on my coworkers and the company which I am otherwise proud to work for. You cannot shame us into a union, this is still a very good place to work, and I'll take the relative security of our profitability over your supposedly superior contract any day.
Airlines come and go, it is the nature of the industry. I don't hold a grudge against XJT pilots in general, in fact they are welcome in my jumpseat anytime just like everyone else. What does anger me are the few of you that like to come on here under the veil of anonymity and repeatedly dump on my coworkers and the company which I am otherwise proud to work for. You cannot shame us into a union, this is still a very good place to work, and I'll take the relative security of our profitability over your supposedly superior contract any day.
10-28-2014, 06:37 AM
#7292
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Shorts CA
Posts: 80
Originally Posted by stewie812
Question about lodging during SkyWest training. I understand that if you want your own room, you have to pay half the rate...any idea on what the rate is? I called the hotel, but the person I talked to just quoted me their standard price...does SkyWest get any kind of a deal?
When is your class date?
10-28-2014, 06:38 AM
#7293
MK Ultra Candidate
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Sweet Jeebus,
Ya'all are beyond belief, "my airline is better than your airline", "my bosses are smarter than your bosses", do any of you realize you work fo a company run by accountants? Every financial is massaged and tweaked within a hairs width of going to jail. Yet you argue like kids over who's sports team is the best. The classic post goes to "a company I am proud to work for", this is equilavent to "my slave owner is better than yours, because he beats me less". What's next a SKYW or ASA pilot stabbing one or another because the happen to be wearing the wrong lanyard/ID? Can we get back to debating why it's a bad idea to play hide the salami with a F/A.....
Ya'all are beyond belief, "my airline is better than your airline", "my bosses are smarter than your bosses", do any of you realize you work fo a company run by accountants? Every financial is massaged and tweaked within a hairs width of going to jail. Yet you argue like kids over who's sports team is the best. The classic post goes to "a company I am proud to work for", this is equilavent to "my slave owner is better than yours, because he beats me less". What's next a SKYW or ASA pilot stabbing one or another because the happen to be wearing the wrong lanyard/ID? Can we get back to debating why it's a bad idea to play hide the salami with a F/A.....
10-28-2014, 06:39 AM
#7294
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Airplanes
Posts: 134
Originally Posted by cencal83406
You're welcome for all the benefits you enjoy. Thank ALPA. Oh and thank a major airline pilot for the flying you get to do. We're working on taking it back, so enjoy it while it lasts.
10-28-2014, 06:42 AM
#7295
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Shorts CA
Posts: 80
Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Sweet Jeebus,
Ya'all are beyond belief, "my airline is better than your airline", "my bosses are smarter than your bosses", do any of you realize you work fo a company run by accountants? Every financial is massaged and tweaked within a hairs width of going to jail. Yet you argue like kids over who's sports team is the best. The classic post goes to "a company I am proud to work for", this is equilavent to "my slave owner is better than yours, because he beats me less". What's next a SKYW or ASA pilot stabbing one or another because the happen to be wearing the wrong lanyard/ID? Can we get back to debating why it's a bad idea to play hide the salami with a F/A.....
Ya'all are beyond belief, "my airline is better than your airline", "my bosses are smarter than your bosses", do any of you realize you work fo a company run by accountants? Every financial is massaged and tweaked within a hairs width of going to jail. Yet you argue like kids over who's sports team is the best. The classic post goes to "a company I am proud to work for", this is equilavent to "my slave owner is better than yours, because he beats me less". What's next a SKYW or ASA pilot stabbing one or another because the happen to be wearing the wrong lanyard/ID? Can we get back to debating why it's a bad idea to play hide the salami with a F/A.....
^^ this please
10-28-2014, 06:46 AM
#7296
MK Ultra Candidate
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by CJC1024
When is your class date?
10-28-2014, 06:52 AM
#7297
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Shorts CA
Posts: 80
Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Just jerk your gherkin lots now, once you get there there won't be any reason nor desire to. Self loathing and self recrimination are powerful boner killers. Get used to sitting/sleeping next to another pilot, this is your future until you turn 65. You are going to work for a company that requires 2 grown employees to share a hotel room, at least they are paying for it and you get at least a pathetic guarantee, unlike days past. This is who you are going to work for, get used to it.
I wasn't the one worried about it. I've been through the training song-and-dance a few times already.
10-28-2014, 07:04 AM
#7298
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by FaceBiter
I'll give up KCM if we can dump XJ. Who can I talk to to make this happen?
Mesaba doesn't exist anymore. But it's not just kcm. It's also ASAP, cass, weather radar, TCAS, and many more things. And that's just the safety side of things.
Originally Posted by amcnd
Nevets. You should know better then to say SkyWest negotiated a money losing contract, that was inplace when they bought them... Anyway, Doesn't matter.. Plan is in motion, noting can change that..
You should know better. The money losing CPA was in fact negotiated by Skywest. That's why xjt was losing money after stopping the branded operation. Skywest also renegotiated the current CPA as part of their purchase. It's Skywest's fault that xjt is losing money.
Originally Posted by Electra
Yeah, yeah, we suck. You guys are awesome and we owe you everything. Except... Your airline lost more than $50 million dollars last year, ours made more than $100 million. We can't get a proper payraise because half our money got eaten up by your insolvency. You work for an employer that is circling the drain, so, enjoy your awesome vacation rules and 401K contributions... But I'm going to guess that my paychecks keep clearing long after your airline ceases to exist. Maybe you can expend some of your great enthusiasm for your union into helping them find a realistic joint contract and a reason to keep you guys flying.
I never said you owe everything. Again, xjt lost money because of Skywest management, not because of the pilots. Skywest has been very profitable in the years before buying xjt so what's the excuse for lack of proper pay raises then? The fact is that you guys don't have as much leverage as you could have and why all of your benefits sorely lag, especially considering the profitability of your airline. I don't worry about my check clearing. If the doors close on this place, I have a back up plan. I won't fall for the fear tactics and vote for less pay when management is spending money running two different airlines instead of saving money to run one combined airline. Honestly, why should any pilot get paid less when there is other ways to save money? I hope you wouldn't vote for pay cuts in that situation.
10-28-2014, 07:35 AM
#7299
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by Electra
Actually, I DO believe that if we weren't carrying the XJT financial deadweight that it would be easier for us, and I AM frustrated that my management didn't bother to look closely enough at the operation before investing so much of our capital in it.
Airlines come and go, it is the nature of the industry. I don't hold a grudge against XJT pilots in general, in fact they are welcome in my jumpseat anytime just like everyone else. What does anger me are the few of you that like to come on here under the veil of anonymity and repeatedly dump on my coworkers and the company which I am otherwise proud to work for. You cannot shame us into a union, this is still a very good place to work, and I'll take the relative security of our profitability over your supposedly superior contract any day.
Airlines come and go, it is the nature of the industry. I don't hold a grudge against XJT pilots in general, in fact they are welcome in my jumpseat anytime just like everyone else. What does anger me are the few of you that like to come on here under the veil of anonymity and repeatedly dump on my coworkers and the company which I am otherwise proud to work for. You cannot shame us into a union, this is still a very good place to work, and I'll take the relative security of our profitability over your supposedly superior contract any day.
Like I said, at least you are honest about coat tail riding. I'll give you that. If management would've just merged all 3 airlines, it would've made more financial sense. Oh well. Enjoy your perceived job security because your airline may be for now. Just remember that your certificate is secure when you file an ASAP thanks to pilot unions but your job may not be, reference DD file someone posted a few posts ago.
10-28-2014, 07:52 AM
#7300
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: Airbus button pusher
Posts: 2,447
Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Just jerk your gherkin lots now, once you get there there won't be any reason nor desire to. Self loathing and self recrimination are powerful boner killers. Get used to sitting/sleeping next to another pilot, this is your future until you turn 65. You are going to work for a company that requires 2 grown employees to share a hotel room, at least they are paying for it and you get at least a pathetic guarantee, unlike days past. This is who you are going to work for, get used to it.
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