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A few consultants on our team did stints at SkyWest. Really enjoyed all the people and it was a good place to be for a regional. I still enjoy stopping into some crew lounges when I can and catching up with old friends.

Hope all is well with SkyWest. We've enjoyed helping many of you prep for your upcoming interviews for greener pastures.

Cheers!

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disillusioned

Point taken. I am just saying for all those people that say if we don't get new hires, we won't be able to grow. I would say if you really want SkyWest, you will have to wait to see if those bonus come through. I really hope we push the company and either make them do it without our vote (and show us how they really feel about our "contract") or make them give something to the rest of the group.

How ****ed would you be if you took the job with SW, then after you get out of training or have been here for a couple months, they offer a signing bonus for 10K?? If you think they would offer it retroactively, I'll give you examples of how they didn't offer it for the 7.5K type rating or our current pay package. It won't happen.

It may be all my interactions with CS that have me looking for someone stealing my wallet while shaking my hand, but I don't trust anything I hear from SGU anymore. The retention bonus is just a carrot. Does anyone think they would want to offer a retention bonus and SAPA would stop them? Why is it even in the pay package other than to plant the seed?? And why all of a sudden is TG willing to hear about CS abuse? They want to work together now?? Sorry, you have made your bed with years of abuse and not caring about me. So unless you are offering double time, I won't be willing to "help you out" If I need extra flying, I pick up crew posted trips and help a fellow pilot out.

P.S. Vote no

gojo

Grow??? Maybe you mean shrink the least. What regional is going to be able to grow in this environment with the parking of 50 seat lift and the lack of pilot canadates?

Nevets

There is nothing that forces a unionized pilot group to go on strike in order to try to get the industry leading contract. Your pay rates may be ok but your work rules need huge improvements. Nothing stops a unionized pilot group from focusing on certain things in their contract negotiations, like work rules. Every time I hear and read these things against skywest not going union, it always sounds and feels like a cop out and poor excuse to me. Every issue and concern that I've heard can be addressed or does not apply. Anyway, I think that the concessionary deals are over now. Ever since PDT voted theirs in, all other regionals have INCREASED their pilot costs with bonuses or improvements.

There is an illusion going on and its being perpetrated by management. I've worked at a non-union carrier. There is a difference between the two. Sometimes its just a matter of not know what you don't know. Anyway, being a unionized pilot group is so much more than just having a contract. And thats part of what people don't know.

Is this Form 41 data? This data is not complete and not comparable in the FFD carriers. If its not, I'd be curious to see the data and how it was compiled.

Nevets

The "future" bonus money is in there because you lose leverage if management ever goes through with it. It probably is a carrot as well but having in there when they probably don't need it right away only gives away leverage. If that language wasn't in the pay package and it passed, later on if they wanted to give out bonuses, they would have less leverage because you would know they feel they need it.

Anyway, didnt they say one of the other times you guys were voting on a a pay package that they will "looking" into CS abuse? And shouldn't you only be picking up from posted pairings anyway?

skypilot35

Finally, we agree on something. It never should've happened, but it has happened over and over again. What you are suggesting is the Skywest pilots put themselves in that situation. Why? How does that help the industry? The union does not fit at the regional level.

Thanks. I'm sure I'll do fine. Done.

NVUS

Retention bonus sounds like a paradox to me. If you want and vote for a retention bonus then it's apparent you want to stay here a long time. If that is the case, then why should the company reward you for something you were already going to do?

Also, the math equates to $70M annually if they actually went through with it. And, IMO, I don't see the company spending that kind of cash.

WesternSkies

They could cut the lifers pay and many will still be lifers.

Nevets

Like I said, nothing stops a unionized pilot group from negotiating something that is fair and good for both the company and the pilots.




So you are saying that management is not being honest with the pilots? Are they just using unethical tactics in order to try to persuade the pilots to vote yes? Would they negotiate a pay raise and then park a fleet? Are they offering a profit sharing plan knowing there won't be any profits?

NVUS

No, that is not what I said. That is what you decided to hear. It specifically states its discretionary and the amount could be up to $20,000 annually. All I did was figure out the cost of going through with the maximum amount.