Envoy- Am. Eagle loses more flying to Skywest
03-06-2014, 11:41 AM
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I've seen a lot of people say that Skywest pilots are wrong for not unionizing, but I've yet to see anyone post any valid argument for them doing so. "Because other airlines want you to" doesn't help any of us put food on the table. If I felt like unionizing would increase my pay or QOL I'd do it, but seeing all of the industry leading contracts ALPA has negotiated in the past few years for XJT, Eagle, PSA and Endeavor doesn't make it very appealing to me.
03-06-2014, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
I've seen a lot of people say that Skywest pilots are wrong for not unionizing, but I've yet to see anyone post any valid argument for them doing so. "Because other airlines want you to" doesn't help any of us put food on the table. If I felt like unionizing would increase my pay or QOL I'd do it, but seeing all of the industry leading contracts ALPA has negotiated in the past few years for XJT, Eagle, PSA and Endeavor doesn't make it very appealing to me.
03-06-2014, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Nevets - Union - Bitter
JustAMushroom - Non-union - Happy
End of Discussion
JustAMushroom - Non-union - Happy
End of Discussion
Assuming = ***
Let me put it this way for you to be and to understand.
SWA = ALL union
So does that mean
ALL SWA employees = bitter
Make sure you either stay there or go to VA or Allegiant. Otherwise you will = bitter.
Originally Posted by CanoeBum
Example ASA contract 07 Skywest had an inclusion clause to give them what we negotiated. How many Skywest pilots paid dues to ALPA for that? I really am happy for you guys just don't think for a minute you did it all without union help.
Originally Posted by ross9238
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Originally Posted by Nevets
independent source of information that tells you when you have a concessionary TA in front of you to vote on.
Are you saying that the union is the independent source that tells you that you have a concessionary TA?? I didn't hear any of them say it is concessionary but rather that it was still industry leading.
Originally Posted by Nevets
independent source of information that tells you when you have a concessionary TA in front of you to vote on.
Are you saying that the union is the independent source that tells you that you have a concessionary TA?? I didn't hear any of them say it is concessionary but rather that it was still industry leading.
Originally Posted by rcfd13
I've seen a lot of people say that Skywest pilots are wrong for not unionizing, but I've yet to see anyone post any valid argument for them doing so. "Because other airlines want you to" doesn't help any of us put food on the table. If I felt like unionizing would increase my pay or QOL I'd do it, but seeing all of the industry leading contracts ALPA has negotiated in the past few years for XJT, Eagle, PSA and Endeavor doesn't make it very appealing to me.
03-06-2014, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
^^^ yet it seems that SkyWest has always been equal or better then the higher alpa carriers... So they dont have this "levrage" you talk about. But what regional does. History has shown that...
03-06-2014, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
You are clueless. AE pilots right now are flowing up to the tune of 20 a month maybe more. How many Skywest pilots or any other Regional out there are flowing up to a major?
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
03-06-2014, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
You are clueless. AE pilots right now are flowing up to the tune of 20 a month maybe more. How many Skywest pilots or any other Regional out there are flowing up to a major?
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
03-06-2014, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
You are clueless. AE pilots right now are flowing up to the tune of 20 a month maybe more. How many Skywest pilots or any other Regional out there are flowing up to a major?
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
03-06-2014, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
You are clueless. AE pilots right now are flowing up to the tune of 20 a month maybe more. How many Skywest pilots or any other Regional out there are flowing up to a major?
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
Thats right NONE......Still, a staple to AA is better than being #1 seniority at any regional.
Get real.
It also helps that you are wholly owned. Your logic is flawed in that SkyWest is not owned by any major carrier for them to flow up to....
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