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Originally Posted by skytrails
(Post 2564199)
outside of the weird block rules. Their work rules aren't really any different then any other regional out there. I would guarantee if they meet endeavor or even republic pay rates they will have zero problems attracting new hires for a while.
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Originally Posted by skytrails
(Post 2564199)
outside of the weird block rules. Their work rules aren't really any different then any other regional out there. I would guarantee if they meet endeavor or even republic pay rates they will have zero problems attracting new hires for a while.
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Originally Posted by Is offline
(Post 2564223)
We now have the worst reserve rules in the industry and the rest of our work rules along with vacation and sick accrual are well below anyone else. That along with a 6 month sentence to LGA will be enough to get new hires to look elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Is offline
(Post 2564223)
We now have the worst reserve rules in the industry and the rest of our work rules along with vacation and sick accrual are well below anyone else. That along with a 6 month sentence to LGA will be enough to get new hires to look elsewhere.
e175 NH’s.. they have easy 30 CA’s wanting LGA... Envoy Reserve is worse. I have lived through both Envoy and SkyWest reserve.. this reserve profering is new to us. We had it at Envoy.. think its just new and different and people like working the system...it’s throwing a wrench into that... |
Originally Posted by skytrails
(Post 2564111)
I hear republic pay rates.
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Originally Posted by hawk21
(Post 2564248)
Any rumors you hear about the TA are garbage. The only people that know details are under NDAs.
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We will never see Republic rates or more importantly their rules. They will convince us that all the other carriers do credit or better so that will never leave. We might see 2 maybe 3% and probably some BS bonus program that will evaporate in a year when the company claims hard times.
The heavy sell will come from SAPA with help from the training department, just like always. And the pilot group will swallow every drop and sing to the heavens with their golden bugles! We will undoubtedly squander our best opportunity to lead this industry. We are our own worst enemies! I will be astonished if it's any different! |
Originally Posted by Check Complete
(Post 2564328)
We will never see Republic rates or more importantly their rules. They will convince us that all the other carriers do credit or better so that will never leave. We might see 2 maybe 3% and probably some BS bonus program that will evaporate in a year when the company claims hard times.
The heavy sell will come from SAPA with help from the training department, just like always. And the pilot group will swallow every drop and sing to the heavens with their golden bugles! We will undoubtedly squander our best opportunity to lead this industry. We are our own worst enemies! I will be astonished if it's any different! |
Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2564353)
I disagree.. i think this time, If its anything short of matching the other 2 airlines out there it will be 80% no... And pilots will continue to get hired at the Majors/LLC’s at a 80+ per month rate..
The pilots will pass the first BS offer, by a slim margin (~58%) Thanks to the hard working efforts of SAPA and the training department doing a hard sell job and the heavy rationing of koolaid. Until this pilot group wakes up, and makes some real systemic changes in how we are represented. Nothing. Will. Change. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. |
Furthermore.....To hell with matching Republic or Endeavor. Pay rates are meaningless without substantial improvements to work rules and QOL.
Throwing money at people will only work temporary. The exodus will continue as long as people are forced to work 95+ hours, minimum days off, and uncommuteable schedules every. Single. Month. With no relief, ever. |
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