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rcfd13 05-22-2016 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 2133558)
Don't **** on my feet and tell me it's raining. Well north of 100k and I'm sure you're whoring your yourself out. I'm talking about straight salary, not including bonuses...which are not guaranteed.

$88x85 hours=$7480.00 a month
Perdiem is probably around $500.00 a month

Straight pay is less than $100k like I said unless you're whoring yourself out. Sure throw in the bonus and vacation and which are not guaranteed and you're over $100K.

If you're home every night, I get it...might as well stay...quality of life is huge.

My minimum line credit value for nearly two years has been 89+ every month. Lots of months it'll get to 85, not be able to complete then tack on another 4 day bringing me over 100 awarded per month.

If you're going to use "average" numbers you definitely want to be using about 95 average for most of the junior captains and all of the FOs.

IFLYPLANEZBRO 05-22-2016 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 2133558)
Don't **** on my feet and tell me it's raining. Well north of 100k and I'm sure you're whoring your yourself out. I'm talking about straight salary, not including bonuses...which are not guaranteed.

$88x85 hours=$7480.00 a month
Perdiem is probably around $500.00 a month

Straight pay is less than $100k like I said unless you're whoring yourself out. Sure throw in the bonus and vacation and which are not guaranteed and you're over $100K.

If you're home every night, I get it...might as well stay...quality of life is huge.

Oh please I'm a somewhat junior FO I'm gonna make just under 60k. If a captain isn't making over 100 something is wrong.

In your calculations you have to realize that everyone on the crj side is maxed out on flying every month. And that's only scheduled then let's say something happens on a trip...you make more money. You get reflowed or time out it gets you more money. I haven't seen less than 100 hours of credit a month since I started here.

skiK2 05-22-2016 03:43 PM

Terantious has no idea what he's talking about.

Everyone at OO has soft time, whether that be vacation, user, standups, cancels, etc. We also have 6 bonus checks a year. 100 hours of credit earns 10 hours of user/vacationed per month.

I still plan on leaving, but I don't know many that make just the minimum at SkyWest. These guys/gals will drop/post most of their trips because they have a sucessfull side business, or a significant other that brings home more than minimum wage.

Cruz5350 05-22-2016 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by skiK2 (Post 2133641)
Terantious has no idea what he's talking about.

Everyone at OO has soft time, whether that be vacation, user, standups, cancels, etc. We also have 6 bonus checks a year. 100 hours of credit earns 10 hours of user/vacationed per month.

I still plan on leaving, but I don't know many that make just the minimum at SkyWest. These guys/gals will drop/post most of their trips because they have a sucessfull side business, or a significant other that brings home more than minimum wage.

All the 175 FO's on reserve earn the bare minimum.

skiK2 05-22-2016 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 2133673)
All the 175 FO's on reserve earn the bare minimum.

Several instruct on the side because they don't work. Others are able to pick up a local or standup. Plus they're FOs. Nobody is on reserve that have been here over a year. Many of us in the past spent 2+ years on reserve.

There's always a random counterpoint. Thanks for finding the one thing that has no relevance to the overall grand scheme of things at SkyWest. Over 50+ 175s will be coming on board in 18 months. They'll be off a reserve soon enough.

Also, before you spout off more brain busters, the most senior reserves on the 175 ORD have 600 pilots underneath them already. Learn some basic math and maybe try Horizon, maybe then you can change your avatar to a 175.

Cruz5350 05-22-2016 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by skiK2 (Post 2133684)
Several instruct on the side because they don't work. Others are able to pick up a local or standup. Plus they're FOs. Nobody is on reserve that have been here over a year. Many of us in the past spent 2+ years on reserve.

There's always a random counterpoint. Thanks for finding the one thing that has no relevance to the overall grand scheme of things at SkyWest. Over 50+ 175s will be coming on board in 18 months. They'll be off a reserve soon enough.

Also, before you spout off more brain busters, the most senior reserves on the 175 ORD have 600 pilots underneath them already. Learn some basic math and maybe try Horizon, maybe then you can change your avatar to a 175.

There's 80 plus FO's who have sat on reserve a year with less than a few hundred hours in the 175 that's not some random counterpoint. What basic math is there to have they couldn't even upgrade in the next year even if they had the seniority to hold it chief. That last line I'm not sure where you're trying to go with but seems to be some type of insult which I'm not sure where the hostility comes from I'm just putting some facts out there. PS I was at Horizon and flew the Q but came here and flew the CRJ and on the 175....

MrSkywest 05-22-2016 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 2133689)
There's 80 plus FO's who have sat on reserve a year with less than a few hundred hours in the 175 that's not some random counterpoint. What basic math is there to have they couldn't even upgrade in the next year even if they had the seniority to hold it chief. That last line I'm not sure where you're trying to go with but seems to be some type of insult which I'm not sure where the hostility comes from I'm just putting some facts out there. PS I was at Horizon and flew the Q but came here and flew the CRJ and on the 175....

Does Skywest have minimum times to bid captain? The bottom capt on recent bid was about #2375. Looking at the next 1000 FOs about 325 are on the 175. If very few of them can upgrade in the near future due to lack of hours or flying, and if they continue to upgrade about 50 a month then that would bring the upgrade time down to about a year and a half for the CRJ people. If many of those don't upgrade then it might be a year?

Things will be moving fast from what I see. The most likely thing to hold up these upgrades seems like it might just be lack of newhire FOs and not lack of captain slots.

peepz 05-22-2016 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by MrSkywest (Post 2133749)
Does Skywest have minimum times to bid captain? The bottom capt on recent bid was about #2375. Looking at the next 1000 FOs about 325 are on the 175. If very few of them can upgrade in the near future due to lack of hours or flying, and if they continue to upgrade about 50 a month then that would bring the upgrade time down to about a year and a half for the CRJ people. If many of those don't upgrade then it might be a year?

Things will be moving fast from what I see. The most likely thing to hold up these upgrades seems like it might just be lack of newhire FOs and not lack of captain slots.

Not going to happen.

Hypothetically if it did, holy crap would those people have a bad QOL. As soon as those (325) hit 1000, perpetual reserve.

Also your math is way off lol. You have no idea the experience of those 325. Some might be a lot closer than you think :D

Turbosina 05-22-2016 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by peepz (Post 2133751)
Not going to happen.

Hypothetically if it did, holy crap would those people have a bad QOL. As soon as those (325) hit 1000, perpetual reserve.

Also your math is way off lol. You have no idea the experience of those 325. Some might be a lot closer than you think :D

This....

Also, the upgrade pace is slowing. Only one CRJ upgrade class for June, and the DVR shows absolutely zero vacancies for all bases except Detroit in all seats on both airframes. The growth party may be ending....

Blackwing 05-23-2016 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by peepz (Post 2133751)
Not going to happen.

Hypothetically if it did, holy crap would those people have a bad QOL. As soon as those (325) hit 1000, perpetual reserve.

Given that many of them skipped CRJ classes to hold out for the 175 in the first place, it isn't that unreasonable to assume that a fair amount of 175 FOs are gonna hold out for upgrades into the 175 (which won't affect people upgrading into the CRJ at all). A bit foolish IMHO, given the inevitable wave of transitions from more senior captains--but then, so is waiting for a 175 newhire class when CRJ classes are running full-tilt.


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2133754)
This....

Also, the upgrade pace is slowing. Only one CRJ upgrade class for June, and the DVR shows absolutely zero vacancies for all bases except Detroit in all seats on both airframes. The growth party may be ending....

I doubt the sky is falling just quite yet. I suspect she'll be updating the DVR after the DTW bid closes.


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