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Utah 05-21-2016 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 2133306)
I'll assume no responses means it wasn't such a good deal after all was said and done. Sort of a bummer that you guys gave away a 76 seat, more efficient airframe, for what looks like CRJ 700 pay. (Any major work rule enhancements with pay?) I thought you guys were in the drivers seat on that one. On that note, look what PSA did during that time.

Oh it was a terrible deal. We all got screwed over. Everyone got a pay raise, a new bonus program that guarantees a payout of a couple thousand a year, increased retirement, better work rules, increased MDG... It's been so bad we've only added 500 pilots to the seniority list since it passed. (Actually we've hired about a 1000 and 500 have moved on to better places.) Only upgraded 2-300 hundred. Added more aircraft and we're so busy no one can get any time off and new hires hardly spend a month on reserve.

It's been so bad we got a special deal with United that guarantees an interview if you won't quit- Oh wait we don't have that.

Every day at work I hear from other pilots how they wished they had gone to work at Eagle, Mesa, Republic, or even ExpressJet. That with the union representation they have over there they wouldn't be getting screwed over like we are.

I haven't heard about anyone wanting to go to Boutique though. (And just think how much more miserable your life would have been if you had come to work here years ago at this crummy non-union airline. You live in Denver? You'd be a line holding captain making $100K+ without a commute.)

I knew when I turned down offers at Comair and ACA to come here I had screwed up.

Golden Child 05-21-2016 10:32 PM

Is Anyone having trouble getting through CRJ training ?

Utah 05-21-2016 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Golden Child (Post 2133324)
Is Anyone having trouble getting through CRJ training ?

There's a small percentage that don't make it through. I can't comment as too why. I will say that the training department is very good and will work to get you through as long as you put forth a good effort. Extra sim and IOE are common for those that are struggling.

Seeing how you use to work at Transtates and have gone through a 121 program before you should have an idea on what the expectations might be. They really want you to succeed. Really, management is desperate for pilots.

Terantious 05-22-2016 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2133323)
Oh it was a terrible deal. We all got screwed over. Everyone got a pay raise, a new bonus program that guarantees a payout of a couple thousand a year, increased retirement, better work rules, increased MDG... It's been so bad we've only added 500 pilots to the seniority list since it passed. (Actually we've hired about a 1000 and 500 have moved on to better places.) Only upgraded 2-300 hundred. Added more aircraft and we're so busy no one can get any time off and new hires hardly spend a month on reserve.

It's been so bad we got a special deal with United that guarantees an interview if you won't quit- Oh wait we don't have that.

Every day at work I hear from other pilots how they wished they had gone to work at Eagle, Mesa, Republic, or even ExpressJet. That with the union representation they have over there they wouldn't be getting screwed over like we are.

I haven't heard about anyone wanting to go to Boutique though. (And just think how much more miserable your life would have been if you had come to work here years ago at this crummy non-union airline. You live in Denver? You'd be a line holding captain making $100K+ without a commute.)

I knew when I turned down offers at Comair and ACA to come here I had screwed up.

$100K+ a year...highly doubtful unless you are at least a 15 year captain doing about 85 hours a month or you are whoring yourself out. Unless you got a raise negotiated by SAPA, oh wait...SAPA is useless.

amcnd 05-22-2016 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 2133333)
$100K+ a year...highly doubtful unless you are at least a 15 year captain doing about 85 hours a month or you are whoring yourself out. Unless you got a raise negotiated by SAPA, oh wait...SAPA is useless.

Most 5 year CA's make over 100K... Pretty easy to do..

Squallrider 05-22-2016 04:00 AM

We don't offer crazy retention deals because people are jumping ship as they are at most of the regionals you listed "other people wanting to work for"...so bs.

A lot of new hires that leave are military that got offers at mainline, yes there are exit interviews based on facts

skiK2 05-22-2016 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 2133333)
$100K+ a year...highly doubtful unless you are at least a 15 year captain doing about 85 hours a month or you are whoring yourself out. Unless you got a raise negotiated by SAPA, oh wait...SAPA is useless.

I'm under 10 years and make well north of 100k. Check your facts.

SMACFUM 05-22-2016 06:39 AM

Yeah, with the bonuses and profit sharing, I hear from a lot of sub 10 year Captains that 100k is not hard to do.

Also, according to a LCA I just flew with, the training department has officially added 3 more sim sessions to the new hire training footprint. They were added to try to cut back on all the extra IOE (100+ hours) that a lot of people have been requiring lately.

Utah 05-22-2016 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 2133333)
$100K+ a year...highly doubtful unless you are at least a 15 year captain doing about 85 hours a month or you are whoring yourself out. Unless you got a raise negotiated by SAPA, oh wait...SAPA is useless.

Typical captain is around 12 years seniority, which pays $88 an hour. Let's assume an 85 hour credit month. That alone is $90K. Add in another $6k+ for the bonus/pps. A couple thousand for 7/900 override, and even if they only fly locals a couple thousand in perdiem, it reaches $100K pretty easy. If that didn't do it, don't forget to add another 30 hours of pay for holiday and CQ training as well.

Junior captain on the property making only $70 an hour at year four should see $80k minimum. -- Unless they sit on reserve all of the time and never break guarantee. (which is highly unlikely)

15+ year captains can do $120K easy. And it's why most of them aren't interested in starting over somewhere else.

PA31 05-22-2016 08:22 AM

I've made about 1200*hourly rate annually my entire career here without trying hard. I think a 7-year ERJ captain should have no problem clearing 100k, could be done at 5-years but you'd need to pick up flying.


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