Sounds like you're the idiot. Why would I care about $30-$50 extra a month? I make $90+ per hour, and if I work 100 hours a month, that means 12 hours of overide, or $48. Not worth talking about.

Also, the majority of the complainers at OO want less hours, so then why would anyone want to waste negotiating capital to make only a few extra bucks a month, if any, since many want to work less than 87.

$50 is $50 man. It can go in your pocket, or it can go in the company's pocket... I'm sure the pilots it would be more than a $4 override anyways.

Yes that's great that most pilots want less hours, but people are being forced to fly over 87 hours regularly. Shouldn't pilots be appropriately compensated for being over worked?

Also keep in mind that the FA's average about $25 per hour. Get disciplined if they forget a belt and are automatically fired after 8 rolling occurrences a year. I know one who was on the airplane before the rest of us even showed. She forgot to checkin on the computer. Simple mistake. Occurrence!

Are we really comparing our package with that of the FA's, who make squat? And the overtime they get is just a little bit better than squat?


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I just walked through KCM with an FA on my trip. She forgot to check in once she got through security. They called her when we were on the plane and everything was fine when they found out she was okay and at work. No occurrence. If you know someone who got an occurrence for that, you might want to tell her to fight it.

Fully agreed. QoL should be the focus as it would like satisfy both camps....

People who want to work more can always wave the limitations in PBS or pick-up extra - most likely at a premium from OT.

People who want to work less can simply work less.

You can always work more by picking up but you cannot "buy back" free time. So you have to protect the free time and leave it up to the pilot on what to do with it.

But this is all theoretical anyway until there is some form of leverage.

Is it more common to share a room for training or pay extra for a single room? What would you recommend? Trying to decide if it's worth it to pay the $1500 for a single room.

You don't actually "share a room", the hotel is set up so each suite has one room and a living area. One bed in the room (with a privacy door), and another in the living area. There's a small kitchenette with cupboards/fridge/washer/stove...etc. The first guy gets his pick and the second to show up takes the other. It's not nearly as bad as people make it out.

Then again that's on the crj side of things; the ejet may have a different setup in their hotel. I wouldn't pay for your own room unless you were a married guy with kids and were planning on bringing the whole team, but that's a terrible idea.

Anyways, save your money so you can afford real rent or a crashpad after you pass training.

Thanks for this, I was worried it was going to be a standard hotel setup with 2 queen beds in one room. I'll share

That's how my new hire training was on the Brasilia in the Comfort Suites.. I guess the CRJ guys were spoiled with their suites!

I'll admit, I probably used the word "suite" a little loosely.

Previous poster - if you get a little stir crazy at the hotel there's a pretty good taco stand down the street. There is a Rancho Market on North Temple, across the street from that to the west in the parking lot of the dry cleaners. Pretty good stuff, $1 per taco. Trust me, you'll need a reason to get out and take a break. There's a couple others around but this one is consistently better.

Good luck.