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Old 06-18-2016 | 10:51 AM
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Any one jumping to ship to envoy for THEIR new bonus and flow
FIFY. And this is a joke right?
Old 06-18-2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
Any one jumping to ship to envoy for there new bonus and flow
I know a guy at Envoy who has been there for 5 years and still makes less than most Skywest FOs. It doesn't seem worth the headache of going to a company managed that poorly just for the chance to maybe possibly flow within the next 10 years. Skywest has movement and Envoy doesn't. It seems crazy to leave a company with movement for a stagnant one to chase a flow that's based on movement.

Also having flown regional service for Delta, United and American one of these companies sticks out as being by far the worst...
Old 06-18-2016 | 11:44 AM
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Flows are a joke anyway...especially with so much movement in the aviation industry right now.
Old 06-18-2016 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Apokleros
Flows are a joke anyway...especially with so much movement in the aviation industry right now.
I agree. All flows do is lock you in to a false comfort. While all your friends leave for other airlines... Its a smart move by managmnet to lock people in. But it opens ups less competition for the SkyWest guys that go to mulitpule airlines.. Not just waiting for one..
Old 06-18-2016 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Apokleros
Flows are a joke anyway...especially with so much movement in the aviation industry right now.
I'm not sure. I'm flying with a lot of guys who have gotten turned down from multiple legacies when they failed the interview. Not looking good for them and a flow would have helped. Everyone assumes they will eventually move on. Not true. Not even close,...many will get left behind unless they chose a less desirable like an LLC or bottom feeder cargo
Old 06-18-2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JB22
I'm not sure. I'm flying with a lot of guys who have gotten turned down from multiple legacies when they failed the interview. Not looking good for them and a flow would have helped. Everyone assumes they will eventually move on. Not true. Not even close,...many will get left behind unless they chose a less desirable like an LLC or bottom feeder cargo
Well if that is how you feel, here's your chance now at the flow!! Envoy is waiting desperately for you LOL
Old 06-18-2016 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JB22
I'm not sure. I'm flying with a lot of guys who have gotten turned down from multiple legacies when they failed the interview. Not looking good for them and a flow would have helped. Everyone assumes they will eventually move on. Not true. Not even close,...many will get left behind unless they chose a less desirable like an LLC or bottom feeder cargo
Originally Posted by Apokleros
Well if that is how you feel, here's your chance now at the flow!! Envoy is waiting desperately for you LOL
I can't believe I'm saying this but for once JB22 has a point. Not everyone is going to meet the standards that the majors require. There are plenty of people at the regionals with some checkride failures, no college degree or just people who aren't going to pass the interview. For a lot of people a flow through would be a quicker way to move on.
Old 06-18-2016 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Apokleros
Well if that is how you feel, here's your chance now at the flow!! Envoy is waiting desperately for you LOL
I'll have the last laughs when I am out and most of you are stuck here until the regional model fails completely and then you'll all be at Loews.
Old 06-18-2016 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JB22
I'll have the last laughs when I am out and most of you are stuck here until the regional model fails completely and then you'll all be at Loews.
Just make sure you don't convey this type of attitude outside of these forums or you might find your self in the same boat as some of the captains you've flown with in the future.
Old 06-18-2016 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
Any one jumping to ship to envoy for there new bonus and flow

You got to make your own decision. If ORD is your goal as some of your other posts suggest, I highly recommend the CRJ with SKYW.

The notion that Envoy is remotely competitive in ORD is laughable...

If your are so motivated by monetary incentives, I suggest you pursue another career but aviation - almost any other professional field will have a higher lifetime NPV than flying.
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