Skywest v2.0
06-19-2016 | 05:26 PM
#1841
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Before I get jumped on, I admit that I am uniformed and looking for answers to a few question.
I've noted that Skywest does not have a union. However I see mention of SAPA. What is SAPA and how does it differ from a union? Also, if SKW does not have a union, what ability does the pilot group have to strike? It seems that without a union the pilot group has little to no leverage.
I've noted that Skywest does not have a union. However I see mention of SAPA. What is SAPA and how does it differ from a union? Also, if SKW does not have a union, what ability does the pilot group have to strike? It seems that without a union the pilot group has little to no leverage.
06-19-2016 | 06:24 PM
#1843
Banned
Joined: Aug 2015
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From: Lots
Before I get jumped on, I admit that I am uniformed and looking for answers to a few question.
I've noted that Skywest does not have a union. However I see mention of SAPA. What is SAPA and how does it differ from a union? Also, if SKW does not have a union, what ability does the pilot group have to strike? It seems that without a union the pilot group has little to no leverage.
I've noted that Skywest does not have a union. However I see mention of SAPA. What is SAPA and how does it differ from a union? Also, if SKW does not have a union, what ability does the pilot group have to strike? It seems that without a union the pilot group has little to no leverage.
SAPA is basically a few pilots that management pays to tell the rest of the pilots how it's going to be.
06-19-2016 | 07:26 PM
#1844
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As one of the many pilots that are at OO that use to work for a alpa airline i can say this is not a big deal. Its only the people on this board that bring it up spend all there days thinking about it... If having alpa at SKYW was such a big deal, we would be alpa already...
06-19-2016 | 07:41 PM
#1845
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From: BE76 Right Seat
Not a troll just trying to figure out what role the union will play in my aviation career. I grew up in a mixed family home. My mom was union and my dad was management (different companies). If I listened to my mother she would have me believe that a union is the best thing since sliced bread. But if I listened to my dad he would say they are the scourge of the earth. Twice my mom went on strike, while growing up and those were some of the most awkward times in my house. There were days i didnt want to go home.
My intent is to find out the benefits of working for unionized and non-unionized groups.
My intent is to find out the benefits of working for unionized and non-unionized groups.
06-20-2016 | 03:51 AM
#1846
Gets Weekends Off
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Not a troll just trying to figure out what role the union will play in my aviation career. I grew up in a mixed family home. My mom was union and my dad was management (different companies). If I listened to my mother she would have me believe that a union is the best thing since sliced bread. But if I listened to my dad he would say they are the scourge of the earth. Twice my mom went on strike, while growing up and those were some of the most awkward times in my house. There were days i didnt want to go home.
My intent is to find out the benefits of working for unionized and non-unionized groups.
My intent is to find out the benefits of working for unionized and non-unionized groups.
Honestly. In the case of the regional state were in right now. Nothing.. (Actualy a magazine and a small amount of money taken each check...)
Go to a airline that fits your "lifestyle" (were you live, were you want to fly) enjoy your 5 years there (as everyone will have a chance at the majors the next 10 years). And move on..
06-20-2016 | 07:12 AM
#1847
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Absolutely no difference at the regional level. I would not choose a regional based on union or lack of union. Choose based on geography, expected career progression, and QOL/culture (there's some trade space between those three).
06-20-2016 | 07:45 AM
#1849
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From: 737
Did some digging and SAPA has agreed in a new policy without really telling us last March. If you manipulate your bid with Golden/Vacation days to force PBS to award under 75 hours you're considered a composite line holder and they will add open time or reserve days to your schedule to bring you up to 75. It doesn't matter what your seniority is. So I'm going to have to add a trip to my schedule.
Thanks SAPA!!
Thanks SAPA!!
06-20-2016 | 08:03 AM
#1850
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2015
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From: Downward Dog
I knew some were "abusing" that but these days if you can actually hold vacation on that day and actually have the vacation bank I don't see what the deal is.
What a dumb thing to give away.
What a dumb thing to give away.
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