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05-25-2016, 03:08 PM
#1341
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 472
Whatever the mechanic / details are on it, I'd still like to understand the background.
I am sure the company didn't give it to them out of goodness of their heart. They either gave something up or had any leverage at the time.
It would be delusional to expect anything given to the pilot group right now - without giving up something else. An override scheme is nothing else but another pay increase (or cost increase) for the company. Why would they do that? Just because the FAs have something like it? I don't think so.
I don't see that in our future unless there is something in return that will ultimately offsets the cost increase we can offer in return.
I am sure the company didn't give it to them out of goodness of their heart. They either gave something up or had any leverage at the time.
It would be delusional to expect anything given to the pilot group right now - without giving up something else. An override scheme is nothing else but another pay increase (or cost increase) for the company. Why would they do that? Just because the FAs have something like it? I don't think so.
I don't see that in our future unless there is something in return that will ultimately offsets the cost increase we can offer in return.
05-25-2016, 04:45 PM
#1342
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 1,174
From my limited understanding the pay packages for the Flight Attendants have been pretty pathetic. As in no raise and here's a coat.
05-25-2016, 08:10 PM
#1343
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 127
Originally Posted by elmetal
Yeah but have you seen their opentime? Tons of stuff to pickup.
Anything above 84 is premium for them. Whether they pick it up or are awarded. Most FAs I fly with work 110-120 a month.
We need that.
Anything above 84 is premium for them. Whether they pick it up or are awarded. Most FAs I fly with work 110-120 a month.
We need that.
05-25-2016, 08:34 PM
#1344
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Lots
Posts: 175
Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
I flew with one of the guys who negotiated this last pay package. He said the company wanted to give us time and a half for all block flown over 83hrs in a month. But sapa rejected that in favor of the increased incentive pay types. Because according to him that block incentive would have been unfair to stand up crews.... Most idiotic thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth.
05-25-2016, 08:59 PM
#1345
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 516
Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
I flew with one of the guys who negotiated this last pay package. He said the company wanted to give us time and a half for all block flown over 83hrs in a month. But sapa rejected that in favor of the increased incentive pay types. Because according to him that block incentive would have been unfair to stand up crews.... Most idiotic thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth.
05-25-2016, 09:19 PM
#1346
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 613
Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
I flew with one of the guys who negotiated this last pay package. He said the company wanted to give us time and a half for all block flown over 83hrs in a month. But sapa rejected that in favor of the increased incentive pay types. Because according to him that block incentive would have been unfair to stand up crews.... Most idiotic thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth.
05-25-2016, 10:16 PM
#1347
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 229
Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
He said the company wanted to give us time and a half for all block flown over 83hrs in a month.
We pilots are just plain dumb sometimes.
Airfix
05-25-2016, 10:16 PM
#1348
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Another RJ FO
Posts: 1,272
Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
I flew with one of the guys who negotiated this last pay package. He said the company wanted to give us time and a half for all block flown over 83hrs in a month. But sapa rejected that in favor of the increased incentive pay types. Because according to him that block incentive would have been unfair to stand up crews.... Most idiotic thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth.
Originally Posted by SMACFUM
Really?!! Was this person K.P. in ORD?
05-25-2016, 10:23 PM
#1349
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 1,082
Originally Posted by Utah
From my limited understanding the pay packages for the Flight Attendants have been pretty pathetic. As in no raise and here's a coat.
But unions are bad. Got it.
05-26-2016, 07:10 AM
#1350
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: 737
Posts: 62
Maybe if those idiots stopped blowing slides left and right then it wouldn't be so irritating that they get overtime pay. Hopefully they are using some of the extra income on education or at least a few bottles of ginkgo biloba to stimulate whatever rusty neurons they currently possess.
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