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05-25-2016 | 10:16 PM

#1351

Airfix

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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO

He said the company wanted to give us time and a half for all block flown over 83hrs in a month.

I'm not buying that in the slightest. That would have cost the company much more than the staggered pickup incentives we ended up with. In fact the staggered incentives amounted to a pay cut despite SAPA arguing the contrary. We played right into the company's hand just like we did with the Bro FO pay raises.

We pilots are just plain dumb sometimes.

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05-25-2016 | 10:16 PM

#1352

rcfd13

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From: Another RJ FO

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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO

I flew with one of the guys who negotiated this last pay package. He said the company wanted to give us time and a half for all block flown over 83hrs in a month. But sapa rejected that in favor of the increased incentive pay types. Because according to him that block incentive would have been unfair to stand up crews.... Most idiotic thing I've ever heard come out of someone's mouth.

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Originally Posted by SMACFUM

Really?!! Was this person K.P. in ORD?

He personally likes standups go figure. It may screw the majority of the pilot group but I guess it benefits him.

05-25-2016 | 10:23 PM

#1353

Blackwing

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From: ERJ CA

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Originally Posted by Utah

From my limited understanding the pay packages for the Flight Attendants have been pretty pathetic. As in no raise and here's a coat.

But unions are bad. Got it.

05-26-2016 | 07:10 AM

#1354

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Maybe if those idiots stopped blowing slides left and right then it wouldn't be so irritating that they get overtime pay. Hopefully they are using some of the extra income on education or at least a few bottles of ginkgo biloba to stimulate whatever rusty neurons they currently possess.

05-26-2016 | 07:18 AM

#1355

Electra

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Originally Posted by Karloffstall

InFlight is run a lot like a kindergarten class. Someone had the bright idea that they could save some cash by generating a few dozen CBT's for the FA's to click through instead of giving them each OOE on the plane, and just budget for a certain number of blown slides. Brilliant.

05-26-2016 | 08:14 AM

#1356

N1234

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Originally Posted by Electra

You get what you pay for ....

05-26-2016 | 08:16 PM

#1357

skiK2

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Originally Posted by elmetal

which equates to 15-20% overtime pay for most of our flight attendants

and we get 0.

You understand how percentages work don't you?

15-20% of pittance is still pittance.

05-26-2016 | 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by amcnd

Wasn't that long ago they walked i to newhire classes and asked if any one wanted a E120 Captain spot... We're not there (planes gone) but that was in the 60 new CRJ's coming days. Look at whats going on now.. 50 New E175's coming.. And attrition is way up compaired to those days... I see it at 2 years by summer. Maybe even dip under 2 late summer. Not cool aid'ing this go were you live. East coast PSA/Air Willy ect..

I'm looking at joining the ranks in December, when I get to 1500. Do you think new hires now and in the short term future will enjoy the 2-3 yr upgrade you're seeing currently or will it go back up because of the sheer volume of FO's hired between 2013 and present as opposed to between 2009 and 2013?

Seems like skywest is a no brainer if these upgrade statistics are true .

05-27-2016 | 02:12 AM

#1359

elmetal

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Originally Posted by skiK2

You understand how percentages work don't you?

15-20% of pittance is still pittance.

You're being condescending to the wrong crowd bud.

Yes it's still pittance, but it's still more than we have in writing, so don't be an idiot.

05-27-2016 | 03:49 AM

#1360

Squallrider

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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb

I think it'll stay where it's at, maybe go slightly lower with how many 175s were getting but not lower than 2.5, bare in mind a lot can happen such as losing 200s or gaining even more flying so it's hard to say, you just hold on for the ride. That being said Skywest is pretty good at finding uses for old planes.

I'd recommend joining the bridge program, even if you aren't from one of the schools listed you can apply, it gives you a Date of hire much sooner than your actual date of hire which gives you better travel date, hjgher seniority in class which means better sim schedule and your travel benefits start day 1, added bonus there's no obligation, you don't sign anything so if you want to go somewhere else you aren't burning a bridge.