Originally Posted by soakingpilot (Post 2083780)

Delta bennies will be only with the bases who house them.. ( not ORD ) dont be fooled otherwise. this is based off of my 2 cents but arguably this is how it will work as its just a matter of saving cash.

Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2084126)

IF that is the case the CRJ people that aren't delta dedicated should lose their benefits. How is the ERJ any different?

Originally Posted by trip (Post 2084068)

Continued erosion of bennies and working agreements is not going to help attract new hires.
Real flow agreements, rising hourly rates and retention bonus pay is changing the way candidates look at the regional they want to start with.

Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2084159)

Same argument could've been made back when we first started flying the E175. I still think if as a pilot group we could've held off on bidding for the plane until pay rates and details like travel bennies were worked out, we would've been better off. The fact that it took over a year to get jump seat access on Delta should tell you everything you need to know about how worried our People department is about taking care of the employees. I swear that some of the Bro pilots didn't have the same travel benefits back in the day, but I can't remember for sure. It seems like there was a Bro base that didn't do flying for a partner and they didn't have flight benefits.







Not all changes will be as easy as flipping the switch to raise first year pay. If they were worried about making things better, they would have already started making some changes. But any of us who say things can be better are told to get out of flying because we hate our life. I have some suggestions but I'd imagine they are like opinions and bums.



Reserve proffering - Takes some of the pain away from commuting to reserve and would make reserve way less painful. But emails asking to sit reserve on your day off is easier to do.

Instead we have reserve Captains that live in SLC but are based in DEN. This CA calls CS and asks if he can fly the morning flight out of SLC to DEN and still be in DEN for his 7:00 reserve shift. NOPE. Because reserves can't switch shifts. Instead they flew a SLC reserve CA out to DEN, had him sit ready, then deadheaded him back to SLC. But tell me again about our efficient use of our resources.



Honestly, just basic QOL issues or not continually trying to weasel out of agreements would probably be a big step. Instead we just say how all regionals suck, but we just don't suck as bad. I don't think SGU has any idea or cares how much more efficient and better things could be.

Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 2084182)

Sounds like you guys do suck as bad. Too bad there isn't a way to prevent them from just putting bids out for new aircraft before everything is actually negotiated. Maybe you guys wouldn't have also made the mistake of giving away the ability of management raising first year pay again without having to go back to the negotiating table.

Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2084192)

You realize it's your statements that would prevent this side ever getting organized? You are doing no good and need to go away.

Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2083663)

Really, do you speak this way too?

I hope the recommendation letters you solicit from the jumpseat are written better than your comments on this forum!

Is there a chance your parents are first cousins?

Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2084387)

Ahhh, the ALPA lemming strikes again!

Gullibility is a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action. It is closely related to credulity, which is the tendency to believe unlikely propositions that are unsupported by evidence.

Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 2084182)

Sounds like you guys do suck as bad. Too bad there isn't a way to prevent them from just putting bids out for new aircraft before everything is actually negotiated. Maybe you guys wouldn't have also made the mistake of giving away the ability of management raising first year pay again without having to go back to the negotiating table.

Originally Posted by Westernflight (Post 2084479)

At some point when things aren't working as is, you need to try a different approach. New hires, if following strict seniority is something you desire in an airline, avoid SkyWest. It's mearly a suggestion here.