Skywest v2.0
08-30-2016, 02:25 PM
#2891
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DFW Commute..
Originally Posted by chitolin
ERJ bases are ORD, DEN, PDX, SEA, SFO
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DEN?MSP?ORD?
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08-30-2016, 02:35 PM
#2892
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Originally Posted by VIIPILOT
What would be the easiest commute from DFW?
DEN?MSP?ORD?
Thanks in advance!
DEN?MSP?ORD?
Thanks in advance!
08-30-2016, 03:11 PM
#2893
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If you want the 175, ORD is no longer an Option. New hires are NOT getting ORD any more. Its all West coast bases, SEA being the big one
08-30-2016, 03:32 PM
#2894
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Originally Posted by word302
Most junior FO is 2/16 hire.
08-30-2016, 03:56 PM
#2895
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
If you want the 175, ORD is no longer an Option. New hires are NOT getting ORD any more. Its all West coast bases, SEA being the big one
Thanks again!
08-30-2016, 04:11 PM
#2896
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This goes against my own best interests, but I'm gonna say it anyways. If I were looking to get into the 121 game right now, I'm not sure SKW would be my first choice. Simply for the reason that we've hired a TON of guys starting in December 2013. The hiring floodgates opened then and have not stopped. Just as an illustration, if you were hired in Dec. 2013 you would now be in the top 15-20% of FOs in certain West Coast CRJ bases. And you would have been able to upgrade 3 months ago. Which is incredible, if you think about it.
This has been great for guys who got hired between, say, Dec. 2013 and late 2014 (I'm in that group). But for guys getting hired now...you are gonna be at the bottom of a 4,000+ pilot group, a huge number of which were hired in the last year or two. When I signed on, we had 3,200 pilots and I've gone up more than 700 spots. So in the last 2.5 years or so, we've added 800 pilots. Many of these guys are not going to leave for the LCCs or majors anytime soon, because so many of them were hired right at 1,500 hours.
At the same time, I don't see us securing huge amounts of new flying.
My point is, I do wonder what sort of seniority movement you'll see if you're just starting out at SKW. It certainly won't be anything like what my classmates have seen. Nearly all of us are now able to upgrade, but we were lucky enough to get hired when we did.
Then again, what I said above may well apply to every other regional out there, given the current hiring craze. And if you live in a SKW base, you'd be crazy not to at least consider coming here. But still, just food for thought...
This has been great for guys who got hired between, say, Dec. 2013 and late 2014 (I'm in that group). But for guys getting hired now...you are gonna be at the bottom of a 4,000+ pilot group, a huge number of which were hired in the last year or two. When I signed on, we had 3,200 pilots and I've gone up more than 700 spots. So in the last 2.5 years or so, we've added 800 pilots. Many of these guys are not going to leave for the LCCs or majors anytime soon, because so many of them were hired right at 1,500 hours.
At the same time, I don't see us securing huge amounts of new flying.
My point is, I do wonder what sort of seniority movement you'll see if you're just starting out at SKW. It certainly won't be anything like what my classmates have seen. Nearly all of us are now able to upgrade, but we were lucky enough to get hired when we did.
Then again, what I said above may well apply to every other regional out there, given the current hiring craze. And if you live in a SKW base, you'd be crazy not to at least consider coming here. But still, just food for thought...
08-30-2016, 06:57 PM
#2897
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
This goes against my own best interests, but I'm gonna say it anyways. If I were looking to get into the 121 game right now, I'm not sure SKW would be my first choice. Simply for the reason that we've hired a TON of guys starting in December 2013. The hiring floodgates opened then and have not stopped. Just as an illustration, if you were hired in Dec. 2013 you would now be in the top 15-20% of FOs in certain West Coast CRJ bases. And you would have been able to upgrade 3 months ago. Which is incredible, if you think about it.
This has been great for guys who got hired between, say, Dec. 2013 and late 2014 (I'm in that group). But for guys getting hired now...you are gonna be at the bottom of a 4,000+ pilot group, a huge number of which were hired in the last year or two. When I signed on, we had 3,200 pilots and I've gone up more than 700 spots. So in the last 2.5 years or so, we've added 800 pilots. Many of these guys are not going to leave for the LCCs or majors anytime soon, because so many of them were hired right at 1,500 hours.
At the same time, I don't see us securing huge amounts of new flying.
My point is, I do wonder what sort of seniority movement you'll see if you're just starting out at SKW. It certainly won't be anything like what my classmates have seen. Nearly all of us are now able to upgrade, but we were lucky enough to get hired when we did.
Then again, what I said above may well apply to every other regional out there, given the current hiring craze. And if you live in a SKW base, you'd be crazy not to at least consider coming here. But still, just food for thought...
This has been great for guys who got hired between, say, Dec. 2013 and late 2014 (I'm in that group). But for guys getting hired now...you are gonna be at the bottom of a 4,000+ pilot group, a huge number of which were hired in the last year or two. When I signed on, we had 3,200 pilots and I've gone up more than 700 spots. So in the last 2.5 years or so, we've added 800 pilots. Many of these guys are not going to leave for the LCCs or majors anytime soon, because so many of them were hired right at 1,500 hours.
At the same time, I don't see us securing huge amounts of new flying.
My point is, I do wonder what sort of seniority movement you'll see if you're just starting out at SKW. It certainly won't be anything like what my classmates have seen. Nearly all of us are now able to upgrade, but we were lucky enough to get hired when we did.
Then again, what I said above may well apply to every other regional out there, given the current hiring craze. And if you live in a SKW base, you'd be crazy not to at least consider coming here. But still, just food for thought...
08-30-2016, 07:17 PM
#2898
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Originally Posted by amcnd
We all thought the same thing when it was 2000 pilots. It worked out. SkyWest could be 6000 pilots in a few years. You never know...
08-30-2016, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Yeah but...where's that flying gonna come from? I don't see any of the majors falling all over themselves to outsource more flying (and they're already scoped out, so they couldn't even if they wanted to.) With both UA and DAL taking back some of the outsourced flying, I don't see where SKW really has strong opportunities for growth. We lost the IAH flying to Mesa, and DTW isn't remotely replacing that.
08-30-2016, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
This goes against my own best interests, but I'm gonna say it anyways. If I were looking to get into the 121 game right now, I'm not sure SKW would be my first choice. Simply for the reason that we've hired a TON of guys starting in December 2013. The hiring floodgates opened then and have not stopped. Just as an illustration, if you were hired in Dec. 2013 you would now be in the top 15-20% of FOs in certain West Coast CRJ bases. And you would have been able to upgrade 3 months ago. Which is incredible, if you think about it.
This has been great for guys who got hired between, say, Dec. 2013 and late 2014 (I'm in that group). But for guys getting hired now...you are gonna be at the bottom of a 4,000+ pilot group, a huge number of which were hired in the last year or two. When I signed on, we had 3,200 pilots and I've gone up more than 700 spots. So in the last 2.5 years or so, we've added 800 pilots. Many of these guys are not going to leave for the LCCs or majors anytime soon, because so many of them were hired right at 1,500 hours.
At the same time, I don't see us securing huge amounts of new flying.
My point is, I do wonder what sort of seniority movement you'll see if you're just starting out at SKW. It certainly won't be anything like what my classmates have seen. Nearly all of us are now able to upgrade, but we were lucky enough to get hired when we did.
Then again, what I said above may well apply to every other regional out there, given the current hiring craze. And if you live in a SKW base, you'd be crazy not to at least consider coming here. But still, just food for thought...
This has been great for guys who got hired between, say, Dec. 2013 and late 2014 (I'm in that group). But for guys getting hired now...you are gonna be at the bottom of a 4,000+ pilot group, a huge number of which were hired in the last year or two. When I signed on, we had 3,200 pilots and I've gone up more than 700 spots. So in the last 2.5 years or so, we've added 800 pilots. Many of these guys are not going to leave for the LCCs or majors anytime soon, because so many of them were hired right at 1,500 hours.
At the same time, I don't see us securing huge amounts of new flying.
My point is, I do wonder what sort of seniority movement you'll see if you're just starting out at SKW. It certainly won't be anything like what my classmates have seen. Nearly all of us are now able to upgrade, but we were lucky enough to get hired when we did.
Then again, what I said above may well apply to every other regional out there, given the current hiring craze. And if you live in a SKW base, you'd be crazy not to at least consider coming here. But still, just food for thought...
This all makes sense when the majors aren't hiring but last I checked Delta, American, United are all looking to hire hundreds of pilots in 2017 alone EACH. This doesn't include the LLC's. Even if SkyWest doesn't secure anymore additional flying I'm going to venture out to say we "post 2014 hires" will be just fine. I've been here over a year and am losing 40-50 numbers a month in seniority and that number is at worst going to stay steady if not increase.
I'm not understanding your point. As far as upgrade, is there a possibility it may Plateau a bit with the influx of hiring, maybe, maybe not. But in the state of the industry today, nobody is in a bad spot unless they are working for airline that will go out of business before they can move on.
Finally you mentioned you wouldn't come here as a new hire today because of all the hiring we are doing, so you would go to... XJT or Air Wisconsin, somewhere struggling to fill classes?
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