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09-28-2016 | 04:28 PM
#3471
Ich bin Pilot von Beruf
Joined: Aug 2016
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From: CRJ Kapitän
09-28-2016 | 04:29 PM
#3472
Ich bin Pilot von Beruf
Joined: Aug 2016
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From: CRJ Kapitän
09-28-2016 | 05:31 PM
#3474
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,342
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So many folks focus on BS'ery like this instead of making themselves stand out & more competitive. Don't mean to pick on you but I can't count the number of times the following exchange has happened...
Random White Male Pilot: "Man, it's always chicks & minorities getting hired this sucks."
Me: "Umm...yeah you do know that only about 4% of ATPs are women and all minorities make up like 9% of the rest of us?"
RWMP: "But, but...whatever man they still get hired in front of me!"
Me: "What have you done in the past few years to make yourself more competitive?"
RWMP: "Drink beer, whine about others getting hired and play Xbox."
Me: "Cool."
Random White Male Pilot: "Man, it's always chicks & minorities getting hired this sucks."
Me: "Umm...yeah you do know that only about 4% of ATPs are women and all minorities make up like 9% of the rest of us?"
RWMP: "But, but...whatever man they still get hired in front of me!"
Me: "What have you done in the past few years to make yourself more competitive?"
RWMP: "Drink beer, whine about others getting hired and play Xbox."
Me: "Cool."
09-28-2016 | 05:44 PM
#3475
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,895
Likes: 690
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
So many folks focus on BS'ery like this instead of making themselves stand out & more competitive. Don't mean to pick on you but I can't count the number of times the following exchange has happened...
Random White Male Pilot: "Man, it's always chicks & minorities getting hired this sucks."
Me: "Umm...yeah you do know that only about 4% of ATPs are women and all minorities make up like 9% of the rest of us?"
RWMP: "But, but...whatever man they still get hired in front of me!"
Me: "What have you done in the past few years to make yourself more competitive?"
RWMP: "Drink beer, whine about others getting hired and play Xbox."
Me: "Cool."
Random White Male Pilot: "Man, it's always chicks & minorities getting hired this sucks."
Me: "Umm...yeah you do know that only about 4% of ATPs are women and all minorities make up like 9% of the rest of us?"
RWMP: "But, but...whatever man they still get hired in front of me!"
Me: "What have you done in the past few years to make yourself more competitive?"
RWMP: "Drink beer, whine about others getting hired and play Xbox."
Me: "Cool."
Certain people with 18 months 121 and 1000 TSIC get hired by legacies at age 24. This despite the fact that there are tens of thousands of older folks with years of experience and thousands of hours of TPIC available, and not all of them "have not made themselves competitive".
It's wrong and that's all there is to it. If you're the beneficiary of that sort of PC BS, don't kid yourself EVERYBODY knows how you got there and nobody gives you quite the benefit of doubt of competence they do for someone who earned it.
Nothings going to change those facts. Enjoy.
09-28-2016 | 05:52 PM
#3476
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,342
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Facts? See below.
"Today, 4.1 percent of airline transport pilots (ATPs) are women, 2.7 percent are black or African-American, 2.5 percent are Asian and 5 percent are Hispanic or Latino."
Source... Airlines' flight decks lack diversity | TheHill
Do you really think that these folks are really getting hired in front of 85% of everyone else? There are also many young white male FOs with ZERO PIC who get hired because of connections. Life isn't fair, but don't blame everyone else because you can't get hired is my point.
That anger shows through and won't help you one bit.
"Today, 4.1 percent of airline transport pilots (ATPs) are women, 2.7 percent are black or African-American, 2.5 percent are Asian and 5 percent are Hispanic or Latino."
Source... Airlines' flight decks lack diversity | TheHill
Do you really think that these folks are really getting hired in front of 85% of everyone else? There are also many young white male FOs with ZERO PIC who get hired because of connections. Life isn't fair, but don't blame everyone else because you can't get hired is my point.
That anger shows through and won't help you one bit.
09-28-2016 | 06:02 PM
#3477
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,464
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Find me this data and I'll find the answer to support whoever is correct.
percentage of female pilots at majors (percentage of major pilots that are female)
And percentage of female pilots at regionals. (Again, percentage regional pilots who are females)
If these numbers tip one way or the other, there's your answer. I am not saying either one of you is right, I'm just saying use facts and not anecdotal evidence to make claims
percentage of female pilots at majors (percentage of major pilots that are female)
And percentage of female pilots at regionals. (Again, percentage regional pilots who are females)
If these numbers tip one way or the other, there's your answer. I am not saying either one of you is right, I'm just saying use facts and not anecdotal evidence to make claims
09-28-2016 | 06:20 PM
#3478
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,895
Likes: 690
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Facts? See below.
"Today, 4.1 percent of airline transport pilots (ATPs) are women, 2.7 percent are black or African-American, 2.5 percent are Asian and 5 percent are Hispanic or Latino."
Source... Airlines' flight decks lack diversity | TheHill
Do you really think that these folks are really getting hired in front of 85% of everyone else? There are also many young white male FOs with ZERO PIC who get hired because of connections. Life isn't fair, but don't blame everyone else because you can't get hired is my point.
That anger shows through and won't help you one bit.
"Today, 4.1 percent of airline transport pilots (ATPs) are women, 2.7 percent are black or African-American, 2.5 percent are Asian and 5 percent are Hispanic or Latino."
Source... Airlines' flight decks lack diversity | TheHill
Do you really think that these folks are really getting hired in front of 85% of everyone else? There are also many young white male FOs with ZERO PIC who get hired because of connections. Life isn't fair, but don't blame everyone else because you can't get hired is my point.
That anger shows through and won't help you one bit.
Connections are a part of life and the human condition, somebody worked hard and succeeded and now are in a position to help people they know. Complaining about that is pssing in the wind.
Government-mandated affirmative action on the other hand can be summed up in two letters.
09-28-2016 | 06:23 PM
#3479
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,895
Likes: 690
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Find me this data and I'll find the answer to support whoever is correct.
percentage of female pilots at majors (percentage of major pilots that are female)
And percentage of female pilots at regionals. (Again, percentage regional pilots who are females)
If these numbers tip one way or the other, there's your answer. I am not saying either one of you is right, I'm just saying use facts and not anecdotal evidence to make claims
percentage of female pilots at majors (percentage of major pilots that are female)
And percentage of female pilots at regionals. (Again, percentage regional pilots who are females)
If these numbers tip one way or the other, there's your answer. I am not saying either one of you is right, I'm just saying use facts and not anecdotal evidence to make claims
There are a lot more women pursuing aviation now than 30 (or even 20) years ago.
09-28-2016 | 06:32 PM
#3480
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
From: Beach Bum
So many folks focus on BS'ery like this instead of making themselves stand out & more competitive. Don't mean to pick on you but I can't count the number of times the following exchange has happened...
Random White Male Pilot: "Man, it's always chicks & minorities getting hired this sucks."
Me: "Umm...yeah you do know that only about 4% of ATPs are women and all minorities make up like 9% of the rest of us?"
RWMP: "But, but...whatever man they still get hired in front of me!"
Me: "What have you done in the past few years to make yourself more competitive?"
RWMP: "Drink beer, whine about others getting hired and play Xbox."
Me: "Cool."
Random White Male Pilot: "Man, it's always chicks & minorities getting hired this sucks."
Me: "Umm...yeah you do know that only about 4% of ATPs are women and all minorities make up like 9% of the rest of us?"
RWMP: "But, but...whatever man they still get hired in front of me!"
Me: "What have you done in the past few years to make yourself more competitive?"
RWMP: "Drink beer, whine about others getting hired and play Xbox."
Me: "Cool."
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