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Old 09-23-2017 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
It's not just about hourly pay. What is your vacation and sick accrual? What percentage of health insurance premiums do you pay? Do they have cost escalation restrictions for year-over-year insurance increases? Do you get paid block or better? What matching funds does your employer provide and is it at 100% or something less? Do you have a defined contribution plan? Does your employer provide an occupational injury bank? Do they provide premium sharing for LTD policy that pays until you are 65?

And if you want to include QOL items, do you have a contractual no fault sick, fatigue, and commuter policy? Do they have a contractual train to proficiency policy that includes an impartial training review board? Do they have a neutral third party arbitration clause to handle disputes? Are they able to reassign you via ACARS? Are you required to check-in? Are you required to sit reserve if a flight gets cancelled? Is airport standby more than 4 hours? Can they assign you back to back airport standby days? Is there a limit on airport standby assignment per month? Can they assign you airport standby on the last day of reserve? Are there any automatic release rules for reserve?


Those are just a few items I can think of off the top of my head.

And how is life at Express Jet? A few years ago you had how many planes? 500? How many do you have now? 200? You are slowly being wound down. Get out while you can.
Old 09-23-2017 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
What about the pilot sitting next to you making $30/hr. Do you brag about how much you make
To them?
He makes $37.50 and I buy his coffee and lunch.
Old 09-23-2017 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
What about the pilot sitting next to you making $30/hr. Do you brag about how much you make
To them?

Some of them brag about how they they instructed for 17 years because they refused to work for $19/hour.
Old 09-23-2017 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GearUpHeadDown
You need to stop pimping unions over here. It clearly didn't do you any good on your side of the fence. Like Utah said, we prefer growth and QOL over nitpicking at the small things.
It's not a union thing it's your undercutting everyone else.

Thought most alpa regional airlines try to raise the bar.
You're doing the opposite
Old 09-23-2017 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
It's not a union thing it's your undercutting everyone else.

Thought most alpa regional airlines try to raise the bar.
You're doing the opposite

Pointless, nobodies raising any bars for long, the only people who have any leverage are CFI's. Regional game is rigged. If you're upwardly mobile, you want growth and upgrades. If you're a lifer you don't want to be COMAIRed at age 58.

SKW has historically operated in the sweet spot between mesa and comair.

Don't like it? Get out.
Old 09-23-2017 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
It's not a union thing it's your undercutting everyone else.

Thought most alpa regional airlines try to raise the bar.
You're doing the opposite
Says the guy who signed unimaginable concessions a few short years ago.
You can't make this up.
Oh were you still living with your parents then?

How can I not understand you as ridiculous or you having zero valuable time and energy invested in moving passengers.
Old 09-23-2017 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
It's not a union thing it's your undercutting everyone else.

Thought most alpa regional airlines try to raise the bar.
You're doing the opposite
You work at Endeavor?

Our pay rates are significantly higher than yours. I have absolutely no idea about your work rules, but I'd bet we do better than you do also.

Yeah we don't get the bonus that Delta manages to pay you, but I'll do $10K+ with the ones we get. (Along with the significantly higher pay rates.)

I make $25 an hour more than your highest paid captain and I'm not topped out on the scale and you're talking about us raising the bar? Your pathetic agreement is what management uses to keep our rates low.
Old 09-23-2017 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
It's not a union thing it's your undercutting everyone else.

Thought most alpa regional airlines try to raise the bar.
You're doing the opposite
Please. Our total compensation is at the top of the regional industry. The ones paying huge bonuses are sinking. We're not undercutting anyone. Why don't you pick the regional ALPA carrier of your dreams and say goodbye. Go enjoy your big fat bonus.
Old 09-23-2017 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah
You work at Endeavor?

Our pay rates are significantly higher than yours. I have absolutely no idea about your work rules, but I'd bet we do better than you do also.

Yeah we don't get the bonus that Delta manages to pay you, but I'll do $10K+ with the ones we get. (Along with the significantly higher pay rates.)

I make $25 an hour more than your highest paid captain and I'm not topped out on the scale and you're talking about us raising the bar? Your pathetic agreement is what management uses to keep our rates low.
I know exactly how good their work rules are and how well they follow the contract.

I will pick SkyWest every time. That place is a nightmare.
Old 09-23-2017 | 11:39 AM
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The kool aid is strong in this one....
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