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Old 02-26-2017 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptSwift
Ya it's pretty vague during whatever orientation is... I found out pretty much all my impressions during orientation were wrong. Not so wrong that I'm ****ed, just wrong as it doesn't apply to me until year two.
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Old 02-26-2017 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze

SkyWest has warm weather bases in Arizona if you decide to move and don't want to live in the frozen tundra, and you also don't want to live in California. I would go with SkyWest if I were you.
Can a new hire get PHX or TUS?
Old 02-26-2017 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Aurora8
Can a new hire get PHX or TUS?
I just checked, the most junior FO in both bases was hired 6-7 months ago and just got awarded it this month.
Old 02-26-2017 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spikemath
Last I heard from a friend who started training at TSA about 6 months ago was that it's about 1.5 years to get based in Denver. That may have changed but there's no way it's right out of training. Also, TSA's new hire classes average about 5-10 pilots, where SkyWest is pulling in a consistent stream 60+. TSA is not a growing airline; it is struggling to keep up with attrition and most level-headed people can see past the signing bonus. Good luck though with the decision.
It's right out of training to hold DEN at TSA.
Old 02-26-2017 | 09:02 PM
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I had a conversation with a fellow pilot who just started training with Horizon he said he had heard there is a 20% wash out at SkyWest initial training. I think he said for the ERJ anyone hearing about failures in training?
Old 02-26-2017 | 11:04 PM
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I believe it's a 93% pass rate now, down from 98% a few years ago. Many people are getting the go ahead that would've never been previously considered.

Recently the ERJ program switched to an AQP initial syllabus. The first class has faced a high failure rate (4 out of 16 crews finished without extra sims or failures, over half failed the LOE) according to a few instructors and someone actually in the class. Who knows the actual cause but I'm hesitant to blame the pilots. I'm sure this will be eventually corrected, shame for everyone subjected to the experiment.
Old 02-27-2017 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyinlynn
I had a conversation with a fellow pilot who just started training with Horizon he said he had heard there is a 20% wash out at SkyWest initial training. I think he said for the ERJ anyone hearing about failures in training?
If you can simply pay attention in class and give them 100% of your effort you will get through training. Cut corners, don't study, and go home every weekend (or more) and you'll probably struggle.

Hell a November class on the CRJ had 7 initial SV ground school failures. I think 5 passed the second attempt to keep going. These guys are putting their careers on the line because they read a gouge from their friend and trust it 100%. Then they change the written test and the failures sky rocket....when it's all the same systems!

Not sure what's up with all the recent ERJ failures but I can't imagine the quality of training is drastically different. Skywest wants you to pass. Could have had a bad patch of students honestly.
Old 02-27-2017 | 12:06 AM
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Plus isn't the Q400 one of the hardest type ratings to get? Ironic that a Horizon pilot would say the Skywest training is difficult.
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Originally Posted by hawk21
Not even crappy language. Straight up lying during orientation your first day. Only issue if I've had with the company so far so I can't complain. Incredibly misleading unfortunately.
I don't think anyone intentionally lied to you. What would be their motive? Sounds like you were already sitting in a seat in class at new hire training.
More likely is that they misspoke or possibly they misunderstood the wording themselves.
Old 02-27-2017 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
I don't think anyone intentionally lied to you. What would be their motive? Sounds like you were already sitting in a seat in class at new hire training.
More likely is that they misspoke or possibly they misunderstood the wording themselves.
Don't tell a room full of ~50 pilots/ cadets they'll get 401k match their first year if they won't.

Rant over lol not really a huge deal
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