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EarlyShow 03-02-2017 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2312667)
Lots of flying in all 3, msp being a little slower than ord/dtw. Currently theres no reserve in ord. You'll break guarantee most months especially summer but always budget for minimum on reserve.

Been on reserve 6 months in MSP, flying 20-30 hours a month. Some people are flying less than 5, so I wouldn't particularly say that there's lots of flying. You can credit a decent amount if you're able to pick up open time, but it can be difficult to do with the way the schedules are built.

spikemath 03-02-2017 09:59 PM

I signed up for a pretty low amount; a premium that I would pay $25 per month and it would payout something around $1000 per month in a claim. I signed up to help with the initial phase to A) assist guys who weren't on property yet and could benefit from the coverage later, B) help the lifers who are more likely to medical out and c) get the coverage because it was manageable at a low price now and could be changed later.

I regret signing up. The first month they started sending out the bills I saw I was being charged $50 per month, double what I was told I could sign up for. They never consulted me about the sudden increase in premium and this minimum of $25k that they want reported was not mentioned once, anywhere. Why would they even allow the income tool to go below that number? Well thankfully I never put down my card info.

tcco94 03-02-2017 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2312621)
Simply put, we are overstaffed on the entire West Coast and understaffed elsewhere. As an example, the SFO CRJ side just lost 6 crews to transfers out, with no replacements. Transfers into Western bases have pretty much stopped, as have upgrades. Even super, super senior guys are not able to upgrade or transfer -- I think we have a 15-year FO who can't get an upgrade in SFO or LAX.

We're also seeing an increase in 4 day trips for West Coasters as the overstaffed West Coast crews are flowed to Midwest bases to cover that flying.

It's anyone's guess how long this will last. For now, anyone wanting a West Coast base had better be prepared to wait a while...

Doesn't it all change so fast though? I mean 6 months ago SFO was the fastest place to a hold a line....MSP was a junior base you got in training....

You sound like it's years to touch west coast. I agree, it's slowing down so expect that but no reason to start panicking.

tcco94 03-02-2017 11:49 PM

Anyone gotten an IOE call last month or know someone who did? Wondering if the new check airman have brought that number down at all? On week 2 myself of many 😂

Cazadores 03-03-2017 12:02 AM

Skywest v2.0
 

Originally Posted by uncleowen (Post 2312435)
Ok so this Harvey Wyatt thing, if I'm paying x per month to insure myself for the y income I chose, what exactly is the relevance of my gross salary from the company Harvey Wyatt apparently has no official communication with?









Unless they are suspicious I am chugging 20 Mountain Dews a day to sugar pee myself out of a medical, which may or may not be what I'm doing...



Exactly, to your first point, and to your second concerning chugging Mountain Dew, Harvey doesn't pay until your company disability policy expires, which is six months usually from what I understand. Most medical issues clear up or are well on there way to a SI by then.

Thing is, I see this sort of expensive insurance as covering not just what I make, but what my professional investment is as well. The idea is to soften the loss of what is a considerable time and monetary investment should we be put in the position of having to start over.

I just don't think insuring a SkyWest FO income to a max of 67% as worth it. Not for the price. It just doesn't take into consideration the monetary cost of getting to that position, the time and opportunity cost of achieving it, and the lifetime income potential of the position when just starting out.




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hotbreeze 03-03-2017 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 2312684)
Doesn't it all change so fast though? I mean 6 months ago SFO was the fastest place to a hold a line....MSP was a junior base you got in training....

You sound like it's years to touch west coast. I agree, it's slowing down so expect that but no reason to start panicking.

The most junior FO based at IAH just moved from 2015 to 2016 (basically 9 months out of training). It jumped 6 months just this month.

And, if a 15 year SFO FO doesn't ever want to commute (for a few months) in order to upgrade, then a pilot needs to be satisfied with their QOL and stay put. It is their choice. The most junior captain on both the CRJ and E-Jet at SFO is much less than 15 years.

The problems that SW pilots have are minuscule compared to others.

tcco94 03-03-2017 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by hotbreeze (Post 2312692)
The most junior FO based at IAH just moved from 2015 to 2016 (basically 9 months out of training). It jumped 6 months just this month.

And, if a 15 year SFO FO doesn't ever want to commute (for a few months) in order to upgrade, then a pilot needs to be satisfied with their QOL and stay put. It is their choice. The most junior captain on both the CRJ and E-Jet at SFO is much less than 15 years.

The problems that SW pilots have are minuscule compared to others.

Yeah the IAH wait is a whole extra story. Still 9 months isn't bad even though it's nearly impossible to get out there.

Didn't really understand the 15 year SFO guy because our most senior base for Captain is SLC and that's 9 years. I know one of my buddies just upgraded this month from SFO but his employee number/hire date in the system is way off because he was a ramper for years.

rickair7777 03-03-2017 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 2312791)
Yeah the IAH wait is a whole extra story. Still 9 months isn't bad even though it's nearly impossible to get out there.

Didn't really understand the 15 year SFO guy because our most senior base for Captain is SLC and that's 9 years. I know one of my buddies just upgraded this month from SFO but his employee number/hire date in the system is way off because he was a ramper for years.

Well if the base is overstaffed they won't let anyone in, regardless of seniority (you cannot bump those already in base).

Also they often award vacancies to pilots who are already qualified on the airplane, before sending someone else to training. So if you're not already a CRJ CA, and very few openings pop up, odds are that some CRJ CA somewhere will be looking to bid in, and will probably be awarded that opening first, before someone who has to be trained.

It's well know that the best way to get into certain bases is to upgrade into a different (more junior) base and then transfer over when an opening pops up. You'll have better odds once qualified on the airplane in question.

tcco94 03-03-2017 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2312805)
Well if the base is overstaffed they won't let anyone in, regardless of seniority (you cannot bump those already in base).

Also they often award vacancies to pilots who are already qualified on the airplane, before sending someone else to training. So if you're not already a CRJ CA, and very few openings pop up, odds are that some CRJ CA somewhere will be looking to bid in, and will probably be awarded that opening first, before someone who has to be trained.

It's well know that the best way to get into certain bases is to upgrade into a different (more junior) base and then transfer over when an opening pops up. You'll have better odds once qualified on the airplane in question.

That makes sense. Another thing I hear often is don't upgrade until you can hold a line at a junior base. When you come out of upgrade training how does your seniority work? I assumed your class went to the bottom of the list...


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