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Turbosina 03-03-2017 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 2312810)
That makes sense. Another thing I hear often is don't upgrade until you can hold a line at a junior base. When you come out of upgrade training how does your seniority work? I assumed your class went to the bottom of the list...

Huh? You hold whatever your seniority can hold. What class you're in is irrelevant.

chitolin 03-03-2017 07:12 AM

New file on the efb about activating cell setup. Anyone with any knowledge of when it's gonna happen and what are their expectations?


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Squallrider 03-03-2017 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by chitolin (Post 2312820)
New file on the efb about activating cell setup. Anyone with any knowledge of when it's gonna happen and what are their expectations?


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It's currently in testing. I believe it's for the maintenance log being put on there, doubt company will let us surf the web with it but who knows lol

Turbosina 03-03-2017 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 2312684)
Doesn't it all change so fast though? I mean 6 months ago SFO was the fastest place to a hold a line....MSP was a junior base you got in training....

You sound like it's years to touch west coast. I agree, it's slowing down so expect that but no reason to start panicking.

Who's panicking? :confused:

Of course it changes fast. Bottom line though, Skywest's growth is all happening in the Midwest at the moment. The West Coast 175s are mostly in place, and the former UA -700 birds are moving (and many have already moved) to ORD and PHX to cover AA flying. Net result? We are overstaffed in the West and understaffed in the Midwest.

Until we somehow gain more flying in the West, upgrades and transfers into West Coast bases will remain stagnant. I have no idea where that growth could come from:

• The UA 175 airframes are nearly all in place and staffed.
• The UA 700s are going away (many are already in ORD/AA, and some in PHX/AA).
• There are no plans to add -200s in the West (nor in the Midwest, given Air Whisky's recent deal with UA.)
• Horizon's getting jets to fly for Alaska.

About the only flying I could imagine us getting is more DL 175 flying to cover the LAX-SFO shuttle that Compass appears to still be doing. But that's just one route.

Of course this is the airline industry. This'll all change tomorrow.

Squallrider 03-03-2017 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2312936)
Who's panicking? :confused:

Of course it changes fast. Bottom line though, Skywest's growth is all happening in the Midwest at the moment. The West Coast 175s are mostly in place, and the former UA -700 birds are moving (and many have already moved) to ORD and PHX to cover AA flying. Net result? We are overstaffed in the West and understaffed in the Midwest.

Until we somehow gain more flying in the West, upgrades and transfers into West Coast bases will remain stagnant. I have no idea where that growth could come from:

• The UA 175 airframes are nearly all in place and staffed.
• The UA 700s are going away (many are already in ORD/AA, and some in PHX/AA).
• There are no plans to add -200s in the West (nor in the Midwest, given Air Whisky's recent deal with UA.)
• Horizon's getting jets to fly for Alaska.

About the only flying I could imagine us getting is more DL 175 flying to cover the LAX-SFO shuttle that Compass appears to still be doing. But that's just one route.

Of course this is the airline industry. This'll all change tomorrow.

The big three Mainlines combined are hiring about 3500 people, there will be movement everywhere.

WesternSkies 03-03-2017 10:41 AM

I don't see us stagnating because we continue to hire and attrition is healthy.
If a new hire must have a domicile straight out of training and can't commute I suggest part 135/91.
"No promises" sucks but is very simple.

rickair7777 03-03-2017 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 2312810)
That makes sense. Another thing I hear often is don't upgrade until you can hold a line at a junior base. When you come out of upgrade training how does your seniority work? I assumed your class went to the bottom of the list...


No. In the US (different overseas), your seniority is global and applicable to all seats, aircraft, and bases. It is set based on hire date, and for those with the same hire date, some other random order.

This means your RELATIVE seniority in a certain base, airplane, and seat is what matters.

So if you stay an FO for a longer time, ie don't take the first upgrade, you can then wait until people with global seniority junior to you hold a line in a certain base, and then upgrade. You'll come into that base on top of those with global seniority less than yours.

For example, a certain pilot's seniority might look like this...

Global: 50%
Junior Base FO: 8%
Junior Base CA: 55%
Senior Base FO: 45%
Senior Base CA: Can't hold it at all.

If schedule was key, then he'd want to stay an FO in the junior base.

If money/TPIC was his priority, then he'd have to upgrade into the junior base.

If wanted to live in the senior base, he could be an FO with average seniority, but couldn't even hold CA yet. In some cases he might even have BETTER seniority as a junior base CA than a senior base FO!

RJDio 03-03-2017 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2312797)

Ah Skywest #1 apologist, I'm glad to see you're back.

chitolin 03-03-2017 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2312905)
It's currently in testing. I believe it's for the maintenance log being put on there, doubt company will let us surf the web with it but who knows lol



Considering how crappy the battery life is using it at airplane mode only. Don't want to even think how it'll be with data active. They are also saying they will issue us a battery pack as well


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Squallrider 03-03-2017 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by chitolin (Post 2313005)
Considering how crappy the battery life is using it at airplane mode only. Don't want to even think how it'll be with data active. They are also saying they will issue us a battery pack as well


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Yes there are people testing those already.


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