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04-01-2017, 09:26 AM

#6631

tcco94

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Originally Posted by Drums4life

Funny thing is those are the FO's they paid the incentive to when they kicked them out just to bring them back 5 months later.

Wow I didn't know that

04-01-2017, 09:35 AM

#6632

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by trip

BS, Never heard this from anyone as some kind of concern. The seniors don't leave because they are comfortable with the money and schedule. Nobody wants to take a 50% pay cut and start out at the bottom, unless it's one the majors calling.

No, there are also some people who are not willing to take a chance and I've met some of them. I'm sure there are folks who will not admit that the real reason is fear.

04-01-2017, 10:54 AM

#6633

WesternSkies

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Originally Posted by Oma4545

I know Houston was being discussed, out of Denver I have trips that flow through Houston now. Flying to Corpus Christi, and other inter Texas cities. I don't think anyone knows what is happening to Houston, but some sort of an update would be nice.

As long as we fly for United flowing through Iah is like flowing through EWR except Iah is hanging on by a thread. Though I think you are right that something changed since this domicile closure has been painfully slow and has allowed transfers in. It makes me think that there might have been some credence to the rumor that United was taken off guard (disliked?) that when oil tanked and they cut flights out of there while simultaneously awarding all the 175 flying to Mesa that we would actually pickup and move out.

04-01-2017, 11:41 AM

#6634

TimetoClimb

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Originally Posted by Drums4life

I was one of the last classes to go through and my sim partner got SFO. I would consider getting a base off of IOE right out of training. Can't bid for anything until then anyways.

Good to know, though you can put in a standing bid as early as ground school after the initial award. Looks like there weren't nearly as many sfo awards as anticipated in the vacancy report. I thought they are all assigned by the 1st ? So is the award process over for the month ?

04-01-2017, 11:54 AM

#6635

Cefiro

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Originally Posted by Jvw700

Upgrading 700 a year so......
Will it continue? Who knows..

I don't see that continuing....they've just about completed 175 deliveries and the DTW base is about as big as it's going to be. Those were two huge growth factors over the past couple of years.

04-01-2017, 12:40 PM

#6636

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Originally Posted by tcco94

Wow I didn't know that

They shrunk the base by 50 or so and offered how many compensation? That really hurt the company...

04-01-2017, 12:43 PM

#6637

Jefferson

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"Contract"

I'm curious what the SKW pilots plan is once St. George has gutted ExpressJet then comes for your contract?

04-01-2017, 12:46 PM

#6638

hotbreeze

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Originally Posted by Cefiro

I don't see that continuing....they've just about completed 175 deliveries and the DTW base is about as big as it's going to be. Those were two huge growth factors over the past couple of years.

I only see upgrades accelerating. The majors are about to go into a period of high rate of retirements, which will cause regionals to lose pilots at an increased rate.

I believe SW is looking at this trend and trying to stay ahead of the majors, which will only allow SW to pick up flight from other regionals, that will not able to fly them.

Unless the economy tanks, SW will only experience further growth and higher attrition rates.

About the only thing, other than the economy tanking, that I can see slowing upgrades is an increase in the retirement age.

04-01-2017, 12:55 PM

#6639

LAX2MSP

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

I'm curious what the SKW pilots plan is once St. George has gutted ExpressJet then comes for your contract?

We don't have a contract technically. It's a pilot policy manual that management and the pilot group is held to. It is working fine. Growth is still occurring on both fleets, upgrades continue to drop, attrition is happening faster than ever and we are actively seeking new contracts. We also don't wish any of what is happening ExpressJet on their pilot group. These are good people and it's not the fault of either pilot groups.

Last edited by LAX2MSP; 04-01-2017 at 01:13 PM.

04-01-2017, 01:03 PM

#6640

EFBprobs

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

I'm curious what the SKW pilots plan is once St. George has gutted ExpressJet then comes for your contract?

We don't have have a contract. If we did I don't think management would gut both sides. I think I can speak for everyone when I say we empathize with our brothers at XJT. We don't wish this on them, and don't want to benefit from their pain. This is all the result of the bean counters in SGU. The pilots over here have nothing to do with it. No votes have been cast on it. We can't vote to begin with.