I don't see that continuing....they've just about completed 175 deliveries and the DTW base is about as big as it's going to be. Those were two huge growth factors over the past couple of years.

I only see upgrades accelerating. The majors are about to go into a period of high rate of retirements, which will cause regionals to lose pilots at an increased rate.

I believe SW is looking at this trend and trying to stay ahead of the majors, which will only allow SW to pick up flight from other regionals, that will not able to fly them.

Unless the economy tanks, SW will only experience further growth and higher attrition rates.

About the only thing, other than the economy tanking, that I can see slowing upgrades is an increase in the retirement age.

04-01-2017 | 12:55 PM

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I'm curious what the SKW pilots plan is once St. George has gutted ExpressJet then comes for your contract?

We don't have a contract technically. It's a pilot policy manual that management and the pilot group is held to. It is working fine. Growth is still occurring on both fleets, upgrades continue to drop, attrition is happening faster than ever and we are actively seeking new contracts. We also don't wish any of what is happening ExpressJet on their pilot group. These are good people and it's not the fault of either pilot groups.

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04-01-2017 | 01:03 PM

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I'm curious what the SKW pilots plan is once St. George has gutted ExpressJet then comes for your contract?

We don't have have a contract. If we did I don't think management would gut both sides. I think I can speak for everyone when I say we empathize with our brothers at XJT. We don't wish this on them, and don't want to benefit from their pain. This is all the result of the bean counters in SGU. The pilots over here have nothing to do with it. No votes have been cast on it. We can't vote to begin with.

04-01-2017 | 01:56 PM

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still...

I understand that. But once they have gutted XJT, they will come for SKYW's compensation. Not suggesting the pilots there have any say in what they are doing elsewhere... but that is how all this works.

04-01-2017 | 02:00 PM

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If they did, no one would come to work here. We're already lacking as is in new hire pay. Any further decrease would turn many potential people away.
What you say may ring true during a downturn, but definitely not in today's environment.

04-01-2017 | 02:03 PM

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If they did, no one would come to work here.
What you say may ring true during a downturn, but definitely not in today's environment.

I dont think you're paying attention to how this works... we are already in todays environment.. and everyone has been gutted.

04-01-2017 | 02:07 PM

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I don't see that continuing....they've just about completed 175 deliveries and the DTW base is about as big as it's going to be. Those were two huge growth factors over the past couple of years.

The company has been planning behind the scenes.. adding 2 sims closer to home ( 2 DEN CRJ) but continues to hold all the time on sims in CVG and ATL. Plus 3 matrix devises with full flight controls to cut out procedures training in the full motion sim... they have been planing on having resources ready.. what other airline has done that...??.. My take. They jnow only the strong will survive.. a airline with vast resources, good qol, decent pay, quick upgrade.. they have been solidly delivering that for a long time now..

04-01-2017 | 02:09 PM

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Good to know, though you can put in a standing bid as early as ground school after the initial award. Looks like there weren't nearly as many sfo awards as anticipated in the vacancy report. I thought they are all assigned by the 1st ? So is the award process over for the month ?

Yes it is. I also meant you can't bid for a schedule in PBS until after IOE so until then it doesn't really matter that much where you are based.