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Old 05-20-2017 | 08:53 AM
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Unless you live in Chicago or Detroit, upgrade at Skywest is 5+ years so don't forget to factor that in also. If you want to upgrade you'll be commuting a long time.

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Old 05-20-2017 | 09:03 AM
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Yeah the 200's are just getting a new paint job. I thought it wasn't long ago I read an email from my chief pilot saying we'd have 400 aircraft in the system by the end of summer.

The only thing I will say for new hires getting in now is to expect a long wait to get your transfers to west coast (on the CRJ). You're going to be on the bottom of lists that are stacked up.

That's just my 2 cents from a still new guy here.

Hopefully they transfer more during the summer now that DTW/ORD look adequately staffed well enough (ORD especially) but we will see. I'm not sure if they still advertise 6 months but it's probably going to be longer. Commuting to reserve sucks but still happy I picked this company everyday. Reserve schedules aren't bad either. I'm at least getting what I want in the bid and I have friends elsewhere getting thrown around by other regionals with awful schedules. With the additions SAPA plans to bring to reserve (whenever it gets set in stone) it should be even better too.

I did hear we were going to slow down hiring though (both airplanes) this summer. Not sure if that's true or not but our recent class Facebook picture only had like 20 compared to 30+ on the CRJ.
Old 05-20-2017 | 09:06 AM
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Ord staffed well? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA maybe for FOs. We consistently have 1-2 reserves a day for 250 captains in ord...

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Old 05-20-2017 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Unless you live in Chicago or Detroit, upgrade at Skywest is 5+ years so don't forget to factor that in also. If you want to upgrade you'll be commuting a long time.

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Don't forget that other airlines also don't advertise their more senior upgrade times.
Regardless of the airline, if you aren't at a junior base and you want the first upgrade, you'll have to transfer to a junior base. That isn't unique to Skywest.
Old 05-20-2017 | 09:22 AM
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What I'm pointing out is people that are dismissing other airlines because "commute to East coast"

I'd rather be a Sr fo at whiskey making 80k with bonuses than a jr Capt at Skywest commuting to 11 off in dtw

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Old 05-20-2017 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
What I'm pointing out is people that are dismissing other airlines because "commute to East coast"

I'd rather be a Sr fo at whiskey making 80k with bonuses than a jr Capt at Skywest commuting to 11 off in dtw

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Depends on you where you live. Going to one of AWACs bases could mean adding a leg to your commute, which could mean a few wasted days in hotels each month getting burned on missed commutes. Every situation is unique for each person though of course.
Also, did you look at the details of their compensation? Not as impressive when you see they are counting 401k match (not 100% vested to start), insurance, and per diem. They are also assuming you will refer a pilot there and that you will upgrade in 18-24 months. Pay is also calculated at more than monthly guarantee X 12. While we know hours are and probably will be available, AWAC certainly inflated every possible number for recruitment.
A lot of assumptions there.
Old 05-20-2017 | 09:51 AM
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Depends on you where you live. Going to one of AWACs bases could mean adding a leg to your commute, which could mean a few wasted days in hotels each month getting burned on missed commutes. Every situation is unique for each person though of course.
Also, did you look at the details of their compensation? Not as impressive when you see they are counting 401k match (not 100% vested to start), insurance, and per diem. They are also assuming you will refer a pilot there and that you will upgrade in 18-24 months. Pay is also calculated at more than monthly guarantee X 12. While we know hours are and probably will be available, AWAC certainly inflated every possible number for recruitment.
A lot of assumptions there.
Agreed. But let's not act like the compensation is high or "industry leading" at Skywest. Especially qol.


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Old 05-20-2017 | 09:56 AM
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Ord staffed well? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA maybe for FOs. We consistently have 1-2 reserves a day for 250 captains in ord...

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We have 25-30 FO's in the bucket now. Probably be 35ish once everyone is off IOE. All that information was based off FO's. Idk why a new hire would care about captain numbers. DTW has like 290 FO's to the 220 Captains or something too.

I'm sure those reserves will only go up from here by August when those 200s are taken offline.
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Agreed. But let's not act like the compensation is high or "industry leading" at Skywest. Especially qol.


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No you're right about that. I would say Skywest pay is definitely getting topped by other regionals right now, but our contract is also older. I for one couldn't be happier that we are falling behind on pay, it will no doubt show in the hiring department soon enough which will give us more ammunition in contract negotiations.
As far as QOL I think we don't do too bad at Skywest. There are some areas that could of course see improvement (reserve rules), but overall I am pretty happy with the QOL.
Old 05-20-2017 | 09:59 AM
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Oh and the reserve additions you speak of we all are waiting to see. It was set in stone before TG took over.
Then he decided he wasn't going to honor any agreement that SL and Sapa signed. Including release into rest for standups.





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