No.

Working overtime means doing extra. If you can't drop awarded flying you are not flying over time. On the other hand if you're flying your awarded line and picking up trips at straight pay then you are doing overtime.

Now what you really mean is wouldn't it be nice to be able to drop. Yes. But sometimes you just have to get workitis if you can't drop.

Premium pay, or straight pay rates increase.

Oh I see. So when almost every airline in the USA flies 75-85 hours and we fly 90+ awarded we're not working overtime. Got it.

It's forced overtime, but it's overtime.
Lots of carriers with what is considered forced overtime have some sort of override for credit over x amount, making it effectively overtime.

Don't fight it, don't be a company apologist. It's forced overtime.


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Im not gonna jump to conclusions about this package until I physically read it, i will say however i am very disappointed that there was literally ZERO communications from SAPA! Not even so much as a email that they are taking place, let alone input from the pilot group. This leads me believe that its not going to be up par with what we are looking for. I understand we cant have everything but this lack of communication isnt going to get us nearly what we deserve. We all know who they are working for...

(edit: okay maybe I am jumping to conclusions a little!)

Ya. You did. I get it. Its not as "involved" around here. But if you keep your ear to the wall you could see what has been going on..

And you don't find anything wrong with that? I'm not the only one either. If one has to go hunting for information that's not exactly transparent. It is done intentionally.

maybe new base for skywest in SAN?

Alaska website states more flying out of SAN and LAX. on the E175, Horizon air not geting any of the flying?

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...-and-San-Diego


what are your thoughts about this new flying south of the Rio Grand? :rolleyes:

SAN base is one of the big rumors right now.
It was discussed earlier, but for Alaska, SkyWest will fly to:
Alaska: SAN to BOI, AUS, DAL, FAT, OMA, SLC, SMF, SJC, HDN.
Through DAL, Alaska E175s will fly to LGA, PDX, SJC, SAN, and DCA.

Horizon will still get a big chunk of SAN flying for Alaska.

They will fly from SAN to:
ABQ, MCI ,MSP, MRY, STL, STS, FAT, MMH, SMF

Hmm, will they get employee parking at the SAN airport now or will the airport management still say no, you can take the bus in?

We always had employee parking during the several decades it was a base for us...