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Old 09-06-2017 | 06:14 PM
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Yes. "Rift" . Sorry i have kids jumping on me.. but trying to stay involved in this conversation... on a side note we do have some former "rockers" at OO. One of them was quite famous..
Old 09-06-2017 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
A union drive doesn't necessarily have anything to do with ALPA. In fact, if there was a union drive starting, I'm almost positive it would have nothing to do with ALPA. The last few pilot groups that went ALPA have all been organic. ALPA now takes the stance that they are hands off until the internal union drive is well under way and strong. So I doubt you have anything to worry about.
Not true. ALPA is still very interested in assisting SkyWest. Yes, the initial organization effort needs to start internally, but ALPA is willing and able to assist in getting the ball rolling. In fact they already are.

Originally Posted by amcnd
We all wish it would or wouldn't happen. I have heard of no such drive and im in touch with the very vocal alpa guys.. and not a peep from them...
You're not listening hard enough then. Might want to ask your "guys" again........
Not saying anything is going to come of any of it. In fact, I dont't have high hopes at all, but efforts are underway, and they most definitely include ALPA.
Old 09-06-2017 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
You don't like it here? GTFO. Tell us how the union is benefiting you at Envoy or some other crap ALPA carrier.

ALPA doesn't do crap for regional carriers except drain pilots of what little pay they have.
Hmm, well, care to explain why ExpressJet had Soft Landings 2.0 before we did, when SAPA were the ones to negotiate it? Seems like everything we get, XJT gets first. Why do you suppose that is?
Old 09-07-2017 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
shockingly sounds like mgmt actually followed through on their promise of growth for your 1% contract!
I'm not shocked. I believed they had plans for growth but if I could do it over again I would still vote no.
No matter how many airplanes we receive, it isn't worth voting in a loss of pay and more importantly taking away negotiating power from other regionals.
Old 09-07-2017 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
I'm not shocked. I believed they had plans for growth but if I could do it over again I would still vote no.
No matter how many airplanes we receive, it isn't worth voting in a loss of pay and more importantly taking away negotiating power from other regionals.
We didn't vote in a loss of pay....??? And your PPS bonus will be larger next week also...

Big pair raise.. no, stability i.e. Growth, yes...
Old 09-07-2017 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
Seems like everything we get, XJT gets first.
Like base closures, eternal reserve, 9 year upgrades, and an ever shrinking fleet?
Old 09-07-2017 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
We didn't vote in a loss of pay....??? And your PPS bonus will be larger next week also...

Big pair raise.. no, stability i.e. Growth, yes...
Our pay raise didn't even match inflation. My spending power will still decrease next year when compared to this year. That is asinine.
Accepting a contract that leaves money on the table is concessionary. That's exactly what we did.
Some people complain that you don't want to pay ALPA a cut of your pay?
Newsflash- you've already given away a cut of your paycheck when you voted yes to that contract, but instead of going to ALPA for benefits from them, it's paying for airplanes for the company.
Old 09-07-2017 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
Newsflash- you've already given away a cut of your paycheck when you voted yes to that contract, but instead of going to ALPA for benefits from them, it's paying for airplanes for the company.
Newsflash: alpa can't really do much in regional-land because any significant success will make you more expensive than your bottom-feeding competitors...and then "your" flying will go elsewhere.

Flight instructors have more leverage than regional pilots, because they can vote with their feet.

The only way to win is to get out (or get really lucky and a catch good wave such that you retire before your regional reaches the end of it's natural life cycle).

You have to decide for yourself whether the benefits they do offer are worth 2%. But they'll happily take your money either way.

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Old 09-07-2017 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
Our pay raise didn't even match inflation. My spending power will still decrease next year when compared to this year. That is asinine.
Accepting a contract that leaves money on the table is concessionary. That's exactly what we did.
Some people complain that you don't want to pay ALPA a cut of your pay?
Newsflash- you've already given away a cut of your paycheck when you voted yes to that contract, but instead of going to ALPA for benefits from them, it's paying for airplanes for the company.
What regionals (ALPA) have got over inflation wages?? Lets see....... keep thinking..... hmmmmm... ????
Old 09-07-2017 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
What regionals (ALPA) have got over inflation wages?? Lets see....... keep thinking..... hmmmmm... ????
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